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Formerly jwharper
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OK, I know I'm new and have been busy posting on this site; however, I have a question for all the Roman coin collectors. I have been in the market for a Caligula Denarius for some time, but have not found any. Are there any out there and are they very expensive? I have two AR Drachm from Caesaria, Cappadocia. They are nice, but do not fit with the denarius of the other 12 caesars. I have uploaded an image of one of the two coins. The other is almost identical. I would very much like to find a Denarius though.
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Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
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HI, There certainly are Caligula issued denarii - I'm sure you already know about Wildwinds... http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/caligula/i.htmlAnd yes - they are expensive. To get a decent one you will have to dig deep. There's one (a fouree one) at the current cgb.fr sale estimated at €2,500 - though to be honest cgb.fr tend to be pricy CNG have one for sale http://www.cngcoins.com/Search.aspx..._TYPE_ID_3=1a snip at $13,500. www.diadumenian.com
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06/28/2011 1:03 pm
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Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
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Unfortunately I believe the coin you illustrate to be a modern cast fake. Here is a matching example from a fakes database.  Regards, Martin |
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Formerly jwharper
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I hope you are not correct. I have two of these coins, similar but different. Here is the other coin. Both have tested to be 80-100% silver and each weigh 3 and 3.34 grams respectively.   |
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Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
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That second one is a match to the fake I illustrated right down to the flan shape. That is certainly a cast fake I am afraid. The first example comes from the same dies and I think is another cast fake that has some work done on it to mask the nature of the flan.
Regards,
Martin
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Formerly jwharper
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Thanks, I think. Now I feel like a fool.
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
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jw
Don't feel bad. I wouldn't have known from your first photo if the coin was real or not. I'm just a beginner. But now I know a little more about how to spot a fake, thanks to your post.
It's better that the people with the knowledge tell it like it is (as painful as it might be) rather that letting us go about in ignorance.IMO
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Moderator
United States
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The countfeiters are very skillful and even fool the experts sometimes. You now have a reference piece to take along with you when you are shopping to compare with.
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Formerly jwharper
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The problem I now face is how many of my "collection of fine Roamn coins" are fake. Some of these coins I have collected over a long period of time (decades). Without breaking the bank, is there a way to verify the rest of my collection? Thanks for all the input
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United States
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While it's not unheard of late Roman bronzes have no modern fakes. Early Roman bronzes along with silver and gold coins are faked often, so you should buy from well know dealers that have a return policy. http://www.forumancientcoins.com has an excellent section that lists lots of fakes. |
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Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
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The problem I now face is how many of my "collection of fine Roman coins" are fake jw - hopefully the fact that you yourself had questions about the coins in your three posts means that without knowing it you policed your own collection. Hope that makes sense! Hopefully the ones you don't have queries on are all OK. Best way to find out is to post a sample.
My eBay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/bobbyhelmet/m.htmlIn 423 AD Honorius, Emperor of the West, banned the wearing of pants in Rome!
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Formerly jwharper
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Thanks to all. I have learned from this experience. I plan to post some additional coins in the near future.
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United States
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If you are going to by a Caligula Denarius, make sure it is from a reputable dealer, not an adver., but I like dealing with CNG and dealers I know and trust, I may pay more, but you can trust a good dealer, I got my first Caligula denarius in 1989 for 800 dollars, if your patient, you can find an acceptable one for 2k-3,500.
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