1783 Blunt Rays Nova Constellatio - Almost Nice Things

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Bdlc Valued Member United States 56 Posts	Posted 09/27/2025 6:42 pm One more in my quest to have an example of all the major pre-1800 post-colonial US coinage is this 1783 Nova Constellatio. Not super nice but I've never really been able to afford really nice things, I've learned to settle for almost nice things. I wanted one with the small US that's visible, not a fan of the script version. It's weak, but you can see it. Now I just need someone desperate to get out from under an almost nice Fugio, perhaps even with an almost nice hole in it. Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 63514 Posts	Posted 09/27/2025 7:24 pm Nice purchase! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8459 Posts	Posted 09/27/2025 8:49 pm Love it ! Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Report this Post to the Staff
Bud250r Pillar of the Community United States 757 Posts	Posted 09/27/2025 9:18 pm Very nice. I too would like a nice Fugio! Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 77073 Posts	Posted 09/27/2025 9:54 pm very nice coin! Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 47/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1597 Posts	Posted 09/28/2025 04:02 am Nice! I'm kind in the same mindset, not many of my colonials are truly "nice" by some standards but I like them! I'm actually working on a set of all the normal varieties of the Nova Constellatio coins. I'm leaving out the uber rare contemporary counterfeits and mules. I just sprung for a 1783 1-A which seems to be a pretty hard variety to find "nice"! These circulated very heavily in the early days of our country and were host coins for tons of New Jersey and Connecticut overstrikes. Congratulations! Edited by lcutler 09/28/2025 04:04 am Report this Post to the Staff
Bdlc Valued Member United States 56 Posts	Posted 09/28/2025 3:05 pm lcutler: Yeah, I'm looking at your 1-As on Heritage right now and the last one they sold was 3 years ago for 11K in AU55, wow. I like the small US on reverse with the sloppy S. The history of essentially a future superpower putting it's first stamp on a national coinage issue to some extent. Gratz on getting one. I really like them. Have you posted pictures of it here? I did a quick search on Novas and don't see any. How fascinating the read of the guy with a Connecticut struck over a Nova. So if I'm reading all the research right that (Crosby 1-A) is essentially the very first die pair of the very first attempt at a national US coin? Edited by Bdlc 09/28/2025 3:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1597 Posts	Posted 09/28/2025 5:57 pm I don't think it's actually known which variety was minted first. These coins are regular series Nova Constellatio were just a private issue minted in England purchased by US merchants, so they are actually a privately minted token and not a regular issue of US coins. The design was based on the Nova Constellatio pattern pieces that were rejected by congress. There are actually two 1-A varieties, the really rare one is a 1786 contemporary counterfeit. There are actually 1783 1-A is a little tougher than the most common varieties but doesn't really command too much of a premium. Report this Post to the Staff
Bdlc Valued Member United States 56 Posts	Posted 09/28/2025 6:24 pm Yes. The indication is that even though they were based on the patterns that Congress rejected, the coins did actually circulate at the time and should be the first circulating coins bearing "US". It is also interesting that apparently many of the colonial coppers were struck over the top of these. Will have to look a bit more closely for traces of a Nova under colonials. Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1597 Posts	Posted 09/29/2025 04:08 am I like the block US better as well, the script US doesn't even look like US to me! I have to admit I never posted any pictures and would actually have to figure out how! An ebay search for Nova Constallatio usually turns up a Connecticut or two with a Nova under type. Machin's mills was prolific in using Novas as planchets and most of the Connecticut overstrikes came from there. I only have one "obtainable" variety left, 1785 4-D. After that one maybe I'll try ID'ing Nova's as undertypes and see how many of them I can get. Edited by lcutler 09/29/2025 05:15 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 171012 Posts	Posted 09/29/2025 12:02 pm Very nice! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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