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1755 Guatemala 8R: Was I Correct To Report This To Ebay?

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Pillar of the Community
Czech Republic
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 Posted 10/28/2011  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list
You were right.
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Philippines
386 Posts
 Posted 10/28/2011  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list
Yes, definitely you are correct to report that fake 8R.
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United States
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 Posted 10/29/2011  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list
Yet another clue: a private auction. Unfortunately it's already been bid up to almost $40 by three bids. Please report it, too!

I suppose in some ways it is flattering to see so many fake "dos mundos" coins, but moreover it is really sad that people are using this timeless design to attract and dupe those who are not in an educated position. At least for the somewhat more common dos mundos (those within the grasp of the casual collector), it probably reduces prices and demand for the real coins somewhat. I believe the numismatic forgeries are bad for everybody, the serious collector included.

Would someone please estimate the current market value of a genuine VF/XF 1755 Guatemala 8R with average strike and eye appeal and original or lightly cleaned surfaces? The real McCoy is certainly a very desirable thing and stunning to behold.
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France
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 Posted 10/29/2011  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
There are so many fakes appearing since two weeks - I stopped reporting ...
Sometime they get removed, other times I get a message telling that they were sent to the watch groups and I then have no news.

Is anyone from the world forum here in the coin community watch group ?
I posted some hard to see fake ones - and someone specialized in US coins (or not specialized in those) won't be helpful to discard these fakes ...
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United States
326 Posts
 Posted 10/29/2011  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list
I see we have this thread on counterfeits:
https://goccf.com/t/101244&whichpage=1
but reale type coins are not shown on the list. Is it a hopeless cause with the reale type coins?

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France
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 Posted 10/29/2011  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
The issue is that they are too many fake reales - and they are becoming better and better.
And before being counterfeit, there is also many different kinds and ancient fakes which are collectable ... it's not an easy issue.

I with there would be a rating on ebay, (or + / - ... or whatever they like) - in order to give visible opinion about items on sale (maybe available to selected members, or those with enough ratings in a particular section corresponding to the item they want to rate).
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United States
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 Posted 10/30/2011  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list
take a look on coinforgeryebay on flickr
Pillar of the Community
France
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 Posted 10/30/2011  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
Cool, I was looking for this address to submit my last fake one ! Thanks :)
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Germany
194 Posts
 Posted 10/31/2011  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dosmundos to your friends list
Since I have posted the Mexico Pillar Dollar with Portuguese counterstamp a few days ago, I have found basically a DATE RUN of early Pillar 8R of Mexico on German ebay. They sell between 2 (yes, two) and 100 euro (no kidding!).

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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
648 Posts
 Posted 10/31/2011  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list
Thank You realeswatcher
From that site found this slab. I believe the slab would fit my collection nicely [eBayItem]250919257428[/eBayItem]
don't know about coin. collect the slab as some say =)

edit for info
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10/31/2011 09:32 am
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United States
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 Posted 11/01/2011  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list
Many bids now and price pushing $100--please report it!
Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts
 Posted 11/01/2011  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-175...150670916927

I wonder, when you order from this guy, does he offer the upgrade to the Maaco Presidential Tonejob, made with real genuine silver, featuring Extra Special edge?
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United States
115 Posts
 Posted 11/02/2011  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list
Final update: This coin sold for $285. Maybe it was a good samaritan here who placed a couple of high bids and then retracted them. The auction had been at $293. Reasons cited for the bid retraction were low feedback. I wish it had said "counterfeit goods." It's just too sad that this junk is taking collectors away from the real stuff.
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United States
1962 Posts
 Posted 09/21/2017  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
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