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If you do go for the set, remember the most important part - - and that is keeping us all updated with your progress here in the classic coins section of the forum! Ideally throw in a picture or two along the way...
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Great! Old copper is so classic!
This is the next one I will work on. I already have a few Draped Bust Large Cents. The 1799 will be tough.
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The large cents are great and I have all starting at 1794 except the 1799 and 1804. My goal was fine or better but I settled for vga on a couple of the pre 1800's. The 1808 -1814 group is tough as the copper was soft so I settled for vg a couple of times.
Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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Old copper is so much more interesting to me than new copper, I love the Half cent/large cent series, 2 cent (I know mostly bronze) and the FE/IHC series the most of all the coin series. I went with a 2¢ set to start since it was easy (not a lot of coins) and not too expensive. (Still don't have an 1873 proof yet, and there are two varieties dang it! The varieties I was able to pick the 1867 DDO but had to pay for the 1864 SM, I did cherry a G-4 1872 out of a junk coin box at a show once. :-) I think a date set of large cents in XF would make for a super exhibt project too. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I thought of starting with the middle dates first, 1816 to 1839, watching all the while naturally, for draped bust or braided hair specimens at the right price, at the same time. That way, you could feel like you were making some progress, assembling the middle dates, then adding to either end of the set. Here's what I think they should ultimately look like, aside from the spot on her neck. These are the ones I am talking about being scarce. You can just tell this one's never been messed with. Chance  |
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I was advised by a major national large cent dealer that a date set is the way to go. Just too many well funded collectors are chasing varieties that you will never be able to compete against them. First I would recommend you get some education, the ole buy the book line. Recomemdations would include:
Walter Breen's Encyclopedia of Early United States Cents 1793-1814 by Walter Breen
United States Large Cents 1793-1814 by William C. Noyes
United States Large Cents 1816-1839 by William C. Noyes
The Cent Book 1816-1839 by John D. Wright
The Die Varieties of United States Large Cents 1840-1857 by John R. Grellman, Jr.
Copper Quotes By Robinson by Jack H. Robinson (to assist with values)
Lastly I'll include a plug for joining Early American Coppers (eacs.org) You will get access to the most knowledgeable group of people regarding large cents as well as discounts on the books you need.
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I've always liked large and Half Cents. Right now, fine to extra fine could be out of my budget range at the current time. |
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EAC is a great organization. So is C4, the Colonial Coin Collectors Club....I'm trying to get more collectors into Colonials  swcoin.ecrater.com
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Rest in Peace
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I agree with joining EAC if you are going to collect large cents. This is the go to organization for information. Look for coins with Grellman cards. You can't go wrong. Good luck and have fun!
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Don't know what a Grellman card is ... but I don't even look at slabbed coins, so if it has anything to do with a 3rd party, it'll likely not apply in my case. I've been looking for specimens for the Dansco, and I blow past the slabbed stuff like I do "pizza man's" listings. I'm not going to cut a coin from a slab, and I prefer to assess the coin myself...and probably am better able to do so without the coin being in a plastic tomb.
My entire collection is raw. I sent an 1822 half to be graded, and have since cut it free from it's prison. DGS went out of business anyway, so the numbers on the slab were meaningless, and the online pics were "no more" so I felt no remorse over freeing it.
Chance
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Don't know what a Grellman card is . Bob Grellman is a collector/dealer and is the expert on the late dates. The wrote what is now the standard reference for the late dates. Bob offers an attribution service where he will attribute your large cents for you and give then a sharpness and EAC net grade. The coin comes back to you in a 2X2 safeflip with his card in the other pocket with the attribution and grade. He charges a dollar per coin for this service. |
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Hi Conder101 ... I didn't mean to sound condescending with that last post, but at least on the surface, I don't know that I'll spend all that much time in the actual study as far as die pairings and emissions etc ... but that could very well change. These old pieces just have a really classic look to them, and I think that the circulated grades are terribly undervalued. I may well become that student ... it's hard to say. I really have a strong preference for the frumpy looking matron head. I think that coin design was a little British Revenge for that revolution thing. Robert Scott's design was attractive, but that one ... wow, what a homely woman. I think I'm drawn to them because I've dug so many of them here in Greensboro Pa. Last count was 19 large cents dug, no braided hair style, 3 Liberty Cap and 16 matron heads.
Chance
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11/02/2011 09:58 am
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I have been looking at the large cents here in Colorado and have been thinking the exact opposite very few are showing up and they are getting to be expensive. The common large cents have been going up in price so much that I stopped buying them until they go back down. Wishful thinking I know, but they really are a great set to have.
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I saw no condensation, I just took it as a factual statement and replied explaining what it was.
I understand how you feel about slabs. I don't bother to look at them either. All my coins are raw and I only purchase raw coins.
It's fine if you don't want to get into a deep study of the coins, just collecting them by date is interesting enough. But don't be surprised if the longer you work on the set the more the study of the varieties grows on you. I started out just doing a date set of the Draped Bust cents because I knew I could never come close to being able to assemble a variety set. Today I have 184 of the 187 Sheldon numbered varieties and three of the NC varieties. I have 254 of the 295 early date varieties. Something obviously went wrong somewhere. :)
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11/03/2011 09:55 am
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Yep ... The wheels fell off somewhere. I know how that works though. I may well end up there myself. They are fascinating. I picked up a great woodgrained late date this morning. This coin was sold for just 22 dollars. It looks as though it's had the rim repaired a bit, but this one's going to represent the braided hair variety in my type set. It's easily the best woodie I've seen, as well as the earliest. Chance   Edited by Chancellor Sutler
11/03/2011 10:22 am
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