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Valued Member
 Ireland
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thanks everyone for your help and knowledge.
hey sap, iv zero knowledge on the 'cedid mahmudiye' coins and unfortunatly I dont have an electronic weighing scales to be able to weight that coin, the image is indicating that its more 'brassy' than it actually looks, but you are probably right, it prob is a fake, but is this any help - its a very thin coin, I mean its so thin, its 'blade-like'? this shouldnt be should it?!
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Valued Member
Ireland
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i could make a new topic for these but there isn't any point. going through my collection, there is many coins that I'm unsure of, and there is people on this forum that will be able to identify all of them! so I will probably 'update' this topic regularly, if thats ok...?  i think these coins are from china, and I think the lower one is from Oman. I'm not 100%, and their year of mintage...havnt a clue.   thanks for any info received. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The top three are Taiwanese coins.
Years are: 70, 83 and 73, which corresponds to 1981, 1994, and 1984 from left to right. All these are very normal coins.
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Bottom is Oman...
I used to live there.
You can buy a Lays chips packet with that much money!
I like your ottoman coins!
Nice lot of world coins!
TKC!
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 Australia
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To formalize what TKC said: the bottom one is from Oman, a 50 baisa from AH1400 (1979 AD).
Back to the little "gold" Ottoman coin: yes, real ones are supposed to be wafer-thin; that's just the way many Ottoman precious metal coins were made back then.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
Ireland
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thanks gxseries and sap for the info.
iv got to stop assuming every coin I see with that type language is chinese!!!
sap - what on the oman coin corresponds to 'AH1400'? I must get my tiny brain to understand the system of their numericals!
my ottoman coin is 'wafer-thin' as you say, but you still think its a copy?
even if the coin weighed between 1.58 and 1.6gm, would this prove its genuine?
and TKC, I like my ottoman coins too!! :D
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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The arabic numerals reading from left to right 1 4 0 0
The inscription on the bottom of the khanjar ( the funny looking curved blade design) States the Sultinate of Oman
TKC!
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Moderator
Australia
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The side without the large crossed-swords symbol in the centre is the side with all the numbers on.  On that side, the thing in the centre that looks like a large, triangular-ish "O" is Arabic "5". The small diamond next to it is an Arabic zero. Thus, "50" - the denomination. Below this is the date: I, an E-shape, and two diamonds. The I is a "1", the E-shape is a "4", and the diamonds are zeros again. Thus, "1400". The little gold coin: if it weighs correct, then it's probably real gold. Not necessarily genuine, though - "Jeweller's fakes", made of real gold for decoration purposes, might be common. A jeweller could probably give an opinion on this. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
Ireland
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thanks TKC and sap, I understand it now (kinda!) iv got some more coins that I need someone to identify. the bigger copper coin is difficult enough to see clearly in real life, nevermind my scanner pics but i'll give a shot. im led to believe that both coins are from the same country....?   |
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Moderator
Australia
16850 Posts |
They are indeed; both of these are late Chinese Empire coins. The little one with the hole is a machine-struck 1 cash coin from Kwangtung province, undated, circa 1909-1911 (KM/Y 204), near Hong Kong. The larger one is a 10 cash (or 1 cent) coin, undated, circa 1903-1906 from Chekiang Province (KM/Y 49), on the east coast.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
Ireland
112 Posts |
thanks sap yet again.
so I presume it was common for chinese coins to be undated in those years?
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Moderator
Australia
16850 Posts |
At the time, central authority over coinage in China was all but non-existent - the provincial governments were left to do their own thing. Traditional cast coins (the familiar "cash" coins with the square hole) often don't have dates, while Western coins normally do. In the transition period, as methods of Western-style coin production infiltrated through China in the early 1900's, an awful lot of types and varieties of these coins were made as the mintmasters experimented with variations to the officially suggested designs.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
Ireland
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so my 10 cash coin is one of those 'experimented' types? nice to know!
thanks again sap for your info.
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Pillar of the Community
Egypt
3470 Posts |
quote:
Originally posted by Sap
The top three are indeed from Saddam's Iraq, 25 fils 1975, 50 fils 1981 and and 250 fils 1981. The date on the Israeli one (bottom right) is Jewish year (5)714, or 1954 AD.
Technically, the bottom-left three are from different parts of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled most of the pre-WWI Middle East. The one on the left is hard to see, but looks most like one of the Turkish gold "cedid mahmudiye" coins (KM 645), accession date 1233, regnal year 28 = 1834 AD. The middle one is Egypt, 2 qirsh, accession date 1293, regnal year 33 = 1909 AD. The one of the right is Turkey, 20 para, accession date 1327, regnal year 4 = 1912 AD.
I'm not familiar with the "cedid mahmudiye" coins, and Krause doesn't give a fineness for this coin, but I'm pretty sure that even debased gold wouldn't look that... brassy. It's probably a copy, but check the weight as accurately as you can, just in case. It should be somewhere in the 1.58 to 1.60 gram range. It's a US$40 coin if real.
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Pillar of the Community
Egypt
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quote:
Originally posted by thekidcollector
Bottom is Oman...
TKC!
Sultan Kaboos Saied 1400 50 Baisa |
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