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Bullion Pricing?

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 Posted 11/30/2011  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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I know what you are saying about the price changing. My shop uses spot at the time of sale or I guess purchase.

Same here, Angel. In fact, both of the places where I shop locally have laptop PCs connected to the Internet with the Kitco / markets page up continuously. Each time I make a purchase, they check the spot price of silver at the time of the sale and use that to help determine the exact selling price at that moment. I don't see how they could do otherwise, as volatile as the PM markets can be sometimes.
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 Posted 11/30/2011  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
Yes they do the same and I believe with Kitco as well.
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 Posted 11/30/2011  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
not just Kitco, most online dealers will update their pricing based on spot at the time of sale. Some more frequent than others.

The local dealer I frequent is open only on weekends, so he only have to pay attention to Friday's closing price.
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 Posted 12/02/2011  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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The local dealer I frequent is open only on weekends, so he only have to pay attention to Friday's closing price.

Interesting. How does he respond to a large change in metals prices on the international market, which could still be open when the US markets close? If he doesn't, it might be possible to trade the spread.
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 Posted 12/02/2011  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
The premium he charges isn't high but still considerable, so the market has to Really fluctuate for the small timer like me to make a buck off the difference. Waiting until Sunday afternoon to buy don't work either because he's usually sold out by then. I frequent the place mostly because he gets rare Canadian commemorative coins that he sells by the book (so Very good deals sometimes) and he also don't charge much of a premium for the world bullion he gets in. I can get lucky sometimes with britannias or koalas for $5-6 above spot.
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 Posted 12/02/2011  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
Then you have a good local resource there. That's nice. Not everyone does. I have a couple of local stores that are decent but usually buy in bulk on-line because the local guys tend not to have the volume that I need. I do support the local stores to the extent that I can, though. It's good to have them around and also to be known to them as a customer. If I ever need to sell any of my silver, my 1st choice would be to the local guys. That might be a bit easier if they know me from previous purchases.
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 Posted 12/02/2011  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
I am reluctant to buy online since I find more people are involved (bank, delivery people) plus wait time. I just feel like no one really is involved with a local purchase made with cash. I have bought over the phone from the mint and I'm sure any delivery person knows that plainfield address. I just think the fewer that know the better
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 Posted 12/02/2011  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
I feel bad sometimes buying and immediately turning around to sell for a profit (which is only made possible by the internet). Always exciting to visit though.
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 Posted 12/02/2011  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
But with the prices fairly stable how are you making much? (Aside from the 25 anniversary eagle set)
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 Posted 12/03/2011  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Not every transaction is a home run. If you average a steady 2% and turn your inventory weekly, you double your money in a year. Will your CDs match that?
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 Posted 12/03/2011  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
Just sounded like the poster was buying and selling quickly. Can't sell with a profit quickly in general.
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 Posted 12/03/2011  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list

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But with the prices fairly stable how are you making much?

I am and am not at the same time. Commemoratives that I find at a good price can be flipped for at times 40%+ return, while the bullion coins break even or fetch slightly lower than what I paid for. All in all though, I am managing close to 10% in profit off of the items I have sold. It's a significant time commitment though, another reason I am looking into paper silver or mining stocks right now
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 Posted 12/03/2011  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
Its just your statement was short and didn't explain. Yes that makes more sense now.
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 Posted 12/03/2011  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mariospaghetti to your friends list
Fairly dry here for me to scoop up a deal. I think I might have to venture into the city of Pittsburgh to see what I can maybe find at one of these other gold/silver buyers stores. I bet some of them are more jewelry place that get some coins in that I might be able to grab. I will check and let you know this week what I find.
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 Posted 12/03/2011  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
Aren't there any local shops that have been around for a while? I am luckey to have one
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