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Using Credit To Buy Coins?

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 Posted 01/03/2007  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
It would make sense for the author to hold large lines of credit due to the nature of his collection. I would assume that a flowing hair collection would cost quite a bit and be fairly hard to come by compared to other coins. By keeping a large line of credit the author doesn't have to leave large sums of money in a checking account that yeilds almost no interest. Besides, should two desired rare coins become available around the same time he would still be able to purchase them for his collection even if the actual funds were not immediately available.

Unless you aspire to collect only the rarest of coins and money is not an option, I would not worry about keeping open large lines of credit.
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 Posted 01/03/2007  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganman to your friends list
I always use my American Express card to purchase coins. However I also always pay the full balance each month.
I have even purchased vehicles with my Amex card. If I ever have a problem with the purchase, Amex is behind me, and will make the vendor prove it was right, or issue a credit. I also use the points earned to travel for free. (25,000 in purchases equals a free RT ticket anywhere in the US)

Credit is like a car. Use it wisely, and it will serve you well. Be reckless with it, and it will kill you.

Like others said. ALWAYS pay off balances each month, or the high interest will get you.

MM

PS: As a little bonus, those of us that pay off each month, actually will receive LESS junk from CC companies, because they really do not want us for customers. I actually was turned down once and the lady actually said it was because I paid off balances to fast.....Crazy huh?
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01/03/2007 1:06 pm
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 Posted 01/03/2007  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monster to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Andrew289

I use credit cards for all purchaes. It's a convenience factor when buying over the Internet. Just make sure that you have the cash in the bank to pay off the bill in full when the payment comes due. Never carry a balance.

Also, never ever use those credit card checks. You know the ones they send you in the mail with your statement every now and then. When you use those, they are treated like a cash advance and NOT a credit card purchase. Interest starts accruing IMMEDIATELY. Tear them up into little pieces as soon as they arrive.

Hopefully, one day you will be well established in the world and won't be living paycheck to paycheck, although that's how many people still live all during their lives. Once established, sure you can use credit to leverage the market and win big but it's only for those who can afford to lose and there are not many of those.

Coins are coins ..make sure you have money for food, shelter, clothing and utilities first. If you need to use credit for those ...don't be buying any coins on credit.



Agreed!

Collecting should be only entertainment rather than investment (at least only small part of your investment profolio). Just have fun when you have money to burn.
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 Posted 01/03/2007  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list
fengk, I may be wrong, but I really don't think that John Reich was recommending the use of credit cards. As back in the 'good old days' the term 'lines of credit' only meant that you had already been approved for any ammount you could have needed to make a pruchase.
So have I ever bought a coin with a credit card? NO.
Have I bought coin(s) with an extended line of credit? Yes and it worked perfectly and safely. All it took was a telephone call and I walked out with the coin(s) that I had wanted. Simple as that.
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 Posted 01/03/2007  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Biggs

Buying on credit for ownership is folly. Using credit to purchase inventory with a known distribution channel and reasonable gross margin is free enterprise and what America was built on. Knowing the difference is what separates credit card debit from capitalism.
Jim



Wonderfully spoken.

However, I'm one of those who buys virtually everything with a credit card. Heck, I haven't had $100 at once in my wallet in 10 years. That doesn't mean I allow the balance to sit there, though.
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 Posted 01/14/2007  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add booyah to your friends list
Excuse me while I catch up on old posts...

I don't see anything wrong with buying coins, bullion or anything with a credit card... (Get air miles, "free" stuff, cash back, what ever...).
I do see a problem with carrying a balance and paying interest.
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 Posted 01/14/2007  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list
Using credit cards to buy coins isn't a good idea. The finance charges alone don't make it a viable option. Unless you are just rich and can afford to pay off the balance each month then I would forget this idea. Anyway, if a person is that well off what would they need with a credit card unless you are running a business. Just my opinion.

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 Posted 01/15/2007  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list
I love using credit cards, I use them for everything, but the trick is if the money isn't in your account and you cant afford the coin then using credit so that you can pay for it is a really bad idea.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SE to your friends list
I have a few subscriptions with the Mint so a credit card is a must. Good thing is the totals aren't that great so I just pay it off when the bill comes around. For most of my on-line purchases I just use a debit card.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  06:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Andrew289

Coins are coins ..make sure you have money for food, shelter, clothing and utilities first. If you need to use credit for those ...don't be buying any coins on credit.


Very well said!
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 Posted 01/15/2007  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Irishraider

Using credit cards to buy coins isn't a good idea. The finance charges alone don't make it a viable option. Unless you are just rich and can afford to pay off the balance each month then I would forget this idea. Anyway, if a person is that well off what would they need with a credit card unless you are running a business. Just my opinion.





Buying coins with a credit card is no different than buying anything else with a credit card. If you can't pay it off immediately, you pay interest. Plain and simple. Unfortunately this day and age requires a credit card for a lot of things. Car rentals, hotel reservations, golf course reservations, any vacation for that matter. Plus, if you have no credit, good or bad, it is very hard to "get" credit. Try buying a house with only 5% down and no credit to speak of, good or bad. it stinks, but that's the way it is. I think the cards are a wonderful thing, but I wish there was an age limit. The companies make their money off of college students and such that can't possibly pay off the bills right away. Mom and dad end up taking care of it..... Just my Two Cents.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ClearwaterCoins to your friends list
I make the bulk of my coin purchases by Credit Card. I even puchase my Groceries with my credit card. But I pay the balance off when the statement arrives. I don't see any problem with using credit as long as you can pay the bill.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveG to your friends list
I buy many of my coins with a credit CARD. It helps protect me from fraud, and I get bonus miles for the purchase. However, I pay it off right away too. I personally wouldn't consider taking any line of credit to buy coins. Perhaps if one was a seasoned and successful dealer it would be a smart move. I think for the rank and file collector it is playing with fire.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BRUCE 1947 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by TreasHunt

Sure, Pittman did take a loan on his house, but, all things considered, even then he was nuts.
But his family sure did well in the bargain.
However, if you can't afford the coin, don't buy it.
Credit is not cheap.


Frank,
I believe Pittman was a very wealthy man to start with so credit for him was just good business, however you are right if you can't afford it don't buy it.
BRUCE.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RangerXLT8 to your friends list
I use a debit card. My dad had bought gold coins on his CC, and he pays it off at the end of the month as to not incur interest charges, so in a sense he is paying with cash.. DEbit cards are the way to go because it's the best of both worlds, but not everyone has them yet.

I see no point in buying gold on a CC that cannot be paid in full at the end of the month.
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