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ICCS And Unlabeled Damaged Coins - A Gallery Of Horrors

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 Posted 12/02/2011  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlemoney to your friends list
I am here first as a collector, & second for the entertainment factor. Keep up the good work danlos & glenzy. Two such opposites.




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 Posted 12/02/2011  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list
Not sure I want to enter into this fray but I thought I would post this picture of a PCGS graded 1996 $2 Piedfort.


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I had been looking for one of these outside of the set with the uncut $2 notes. They don't show up too often. I had my saved ebay search for "piedfort" but missed this one because the seller had also listed it as a "piefort"!

I did manage to find an ICCS example that was spelled correctly!
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 Posted 12/03/2011  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list
I'm just getting back to the main house for the winter now and catching up on some of the threads. I can understand how a dealer might take offense to things like this but I just figure they need to grow a thicker skin.

Again it drives the point home about buying the coin and not the holder. When you buy a coin the only person you need to please is yourself. Unless you collect holders, in which case you should make sure that plastic is A1 :) .

Thanks for the pics Danlos, was a good read and while nothing most of us haven't seen I like having them in one place. All that's missing are the multitude of dipped coins that seem to never receive a mention. I notice CCCS is catching them sometimes now.
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 Posted 12/03/2011  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlemoney to your friends list
Good to have you back Ugly.
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 Posted 12/03/2011  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
And of course all of those "Godlike" bright white 125-200 year old PCGS slabbed beauties have never been "restored" either !
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 Posted 12/05/2011  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
Haven't seen a "harshly cleaned" coin in a PCGS holder...:)...
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 Posted 12/05/2011  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
funny guy .............
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 Posted 12/06/2011  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list
While Danlos may choose to slam ICCS, some of you choose to slam Danlos for posting his opinions !

How are you any different from him?
I dont believe he is attacking a individual on the forum so lets let him share his experience with us even although I dont agree with some of his tactics.

Thanks for posting the pictures and providing a educational learning experience for us Danlos.
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 Posted 12/06/2011  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list
Well there's the thing, people do NOT like getting ripped off. When it happens they scream loud and usually justifiably so. I've said many times the only opinion I can really value on a coin is mine, it's MY money. No one else gets a say unless I ask and then I usually ask very politely indeed because time is valuable. If you get an opinion on a nickel dollar from someone like SPP, consider that advice more highly than you would the the letters on the plasti pac.

I've also seen Canadian coin sales by members of this and other forums on ebay where the coin was clearly dipped and submitted for grading. You'd have to be blind to miss this yet those listings never proclaim the item cleaned. So it's not all the TPGs , some onus has to be put on the coin doctors who are still out in force.

Still, I've read the terms of service for both Canadian graders and they offer nothing in terms of a promise. They are selling their skills at packaging.
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 Posted 12/08/2011  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
A cleaned coin is a cleaned coin. It doesn't matter what country it comes from. This stuff is just inexcusable.
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 Posted 12/09/2011  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list
danlos9551 how much is that 1872H A/V 50cent G-4 I think it was...
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 Posted 12/10/2011  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list
? do you know danlos?
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 Posted 12/10/2011  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
Cost me $200...
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 Posted 12/10/2011  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list
Ill buy it, is it cleaned?
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 Posted 12/10/2011  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add motoryoda to your friends list
Wow...this has been quite the thread. I was going to post a few pics here for an opinion, since it is ICCS related, but perhaps I will just go into the "grading" thread to post and see what you all think!
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