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Rest in Peace
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I also reported the auction. Thanks for the information.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Doesn't strike me as a good way to get them on your side, even tho it's true. Yes it was a nasty message I sent but they need to get messages like that to let them know how disgusting some of the counterfeit and deceptive coin and currency auctions are. My complaint is that they let these sellers continue to sell. They should be kicked off and for good and they need to ban the IP address as well. That is mainly my point and purpose for being so tough in my message. I got a reply. It was effective. Thanks for reporting this listing to us.
I reviewed this listing and confirmed that it violated our Selling
Currency policy. As a result, I removed the listing.
I would venture a guess that there are probably close to a million or
more currency listings on ebay at any time. I cannot imagine the man
power needed to be able to view every single currency listing at the
time it is listed to determine if the listing is fraudulent.
Besides our own internal efforts, we often rely on our members to report
violating listings. Additionally, we work with two groups of coin
experts, the Coin Community Watch group and the Coin Forgery ebay group.
When we are made aware of a potential counterfeit coin whether found
internally or reported to us we send the listing to them for review. If
they agree that the coin is a counterfeit, they notify us and we remove
it.
Please understand that we do not "allow" sellers to defraud buyers. We
remove all counterfeit coins or misleading listings when we are made
aware of them.
Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in
keeping ebay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.
Sincerely,
Judith
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Pillar of the Community
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NickleGuy, a little overboard there my friend. Yes, there are ruthless folks on ebay. But as with anything else, one must be aware of what they are doing when buying there. Yes it sucks that people get ripped off, but plenty do not. But calling ebay evil? Anyway, in this case, I lay the purchase of the 1/2 on the buyers shoulders. It cant be more evident with copy stamped on it. If you purchase something without going over the pics its on you. The Seated is not quite as glaringly obvious, but its right there not hidden. The truth on that one is the bidders saw a coin that is in the neighborhood of a grand and they thought they were getting a steal and let that greed cloud their vision. And playing devils advocate here...he doesn't say its authentic. He just says he picked it up at an auction. And the copy is clear as day in the pic. So techincally speaking he didnt lie about anything. Still a scumbag way to sell it tis true. |
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Glad to see he got caught. I did find out that the 1854 dollar that got pulled was a different one from that he had sold previously and received the negative feedback on. On that one (shown below), I was told by the buyer that his photo was altered to not show the "copy" stamped on it. When the buyer contacted him when it was received, the seller told him that he sent a real one and that it was the buyer trying to return a fake copy! Here are the pics of that first 1854 dollar he had...with no "copy" noted on it, which he stated he also got at an estate auction. Pretty blurry but a buyer wouldn't suspect it was a fake copy.   Edited by canuck1us
12/05/2011 8:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The 1931 "half dollar" is simply not what it is listed as. It's a coin copy, not a half dollar. I applaud all you "coin cops" out there. Way to go, NickelGuy! If ebay was serious about controlling this epidemic, they would not have so effectively closed off communication between potential buyers. Some years ago, I was able to warn bidders about copies of Bust Dollars that were being bid above $1,000. I don't see a way to do that, nowadays. |
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: If ebay was serious about controlling this epidemic, they would not have so effectively closed off communication between potential buyers. Some years ago, I was able to warn bidders about copies of Bust Dollars that were being bid above $1,000. I don't see a way to do that, nowadays. As usual, when ebay comes up with a new way to "protect" users, look beyond the official explanation for the real reason. It's usually one of two: More profit for ebay. Less overhead for ebay. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree with The nickelguy ebay is not doing enough to shut down sellers that are selling fake coins. Even in this case they nicely said they try to stop fake coins from being sold but then said nothing about stopping this seller, who has sold multiple fake/copy coins. My guess is this seller will sell more coins like this |
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Rest in Peace
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If he gets blatant enough, he'll get NARUed, and have to sign up under a new name.
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Rest in Peace
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Even the ANA allows properly marked copies to be sold. |
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The guy's only potential infraction was not labeling it as a copy. Yes, that's a bannable offense, but it's difficult for me to sympathize with anyone who will bid up a coin which is plainly marked "COPY" in the provided images.
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Pillar of the Community
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I can't help but notice that many folks, even some in this thread, refer to these CC's, Coin Copies or Chinese Counterfeits, are "coins." IMHO, a big part of the problem is that these copies are labeled and even perceived by many collectors to be coins. ebay classifies coins in many sub-categories, principally so by type. While grading is subjective, a coin's denomination, type and other aspects are objective, as is its authenticity. Is it then not unreasonable for anyone selling coins to have to declare it as genuine or else list it as a coin copy under a separate category like reproductions? Then, if a buyer looks at coins, these copies wouldn't even appear. Would such a move by ebay not reduce the number of these incidents? What say you folks on this? I agree that this 1831 listing is quite obvious, but other listings are not so. Sure, the buyer bears some responsibility, but ebay listings like this 1831 are something of a trap for the less-informed collectors. |
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xo- Interesting theory. Part of what makes ebay such an incredible marketplace is relatively low cost and huge volume. What would ebay have to charge to monitor millions of new listings every day? |
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Pillar of the Community
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https://goccf.com/ebay ebay /a such an incredible marketplace is relatively low cost and huge volume. br / br / What would a target= _blank id= keywords href= https://goccf.com/ebay ebay /a have to charge to monitor millions of new listings every day?" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">xo- br / br / Interesting theory. Part of what makes a target= _blank id= keywords href= https://goccf.com/ebay ebay /a such an incredible marketplace is relatively low cost and huge volume. br / br / What would a target= _blank id= keywords href= https://goccf.com/ebay ebay /a have to charge to monitor millions of new listings every day? How's this sound? Every seller posts a modest bond with ebay. If they have no phony listings when they abandon ebay, the bond is rebated in full. Those who wrongfully list counterfeit items, coins or even otherwise, forfeit their bond. As for policing the coin listings, ANA members, say five years in good standing, could perhaps be recruited. In return for finding a phony listing, their PayPal account would receive a modest credit, drawn from the bond fund. Thoughts? 
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There's no % in it for ebay to get rid of fakes. Maybe after they have to shell out a bunch of guarantee fees, that may change. Haven't heard anything about the lady who bought 1000 Peace dollars for around $4000 from an ebay crook. |
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