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What Causes Toning Like This?

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 Posted 01/13/2012  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list
Heat can do this, and also I believe finger oils.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
I think that is awesome whatever it is. Yes it is a Zinc Large date. The line down the center...I dunno...could it be a Die Scratch or maybe a Die Clash (one of the pillars?)

Cool find from the great white north

EDIT***I looked at the overlay and its to big to be a Clash of the pillar***
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01/13/2012 12:46 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
Thank you for your replies Hondo, Brenpickle, and Jayman931. I agree that it must be heat that causes this type of toning but how it was heated and what the line is down the center of Lincolns head, good question. It is beyond a novice like me to try to answer so I appreciate the help. For now, I'm putting it in my strange finds pile and will continue searching.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list
Heat
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 Posted 01/13/2012  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
I bad camera or a photoshop.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
Liver of sulphur gel. I am sure of it, although there are other ways to produce the "Amazing Monster Toned" coins, the easiest way is using a jewelers toning gel that is called Liver of sulphur. I think it is certainly harmful to coins, yet people are making a ton of money deceiving buyers into thinking that the coins are naturally toned like that.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
Sorry Libertad but it's neither of those. The only editing that was done to the photos was cropping them and I'm using a digital Canon rebel T1i 15mp with an EF-S 60mm macro lens to take photos with which is not a bad camera, but a good camera.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Coin toner products are sold. The fakes ones look just like this.
Most coin albums also tone the coins inside. Usually not the desired look:
What-Causes-Toning-Like-This?

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01/13/2012 9:51 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
@Thenickleguy, I got this out of a box of Brink $25 pennies. Who would take all of the time to do that and then put it back into circulation?
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 Posted 01/13/2012  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
@coop, maybe but once again, this came out of a sealed box of Brinks $25 pennies purchased from Machias Saving bank. Seems unlikely that somebody would spend $$ on the products to do this to a zinc 1982 large date with no DD or other errors and then put it back into circulation instead of selling it.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
People mess with coins to try to make something look like it was something it isn't. When they realize it isn't fooling anyone, they spend it. From circulation probably 90% or more on this forum came from circulation.

Seller from ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/haleyschevy...=p4340.l2562
Natural toning?
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01/13/2012 10:15 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
I can see what you're saying coop but it just seems like alot of work for nothing to me. Either way, I put it in a 2x2 and tucked it away to view another day. Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply on this thread.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chadwick to your friends list
Looked at your link Coop. What is sad about this is that clearly enough people seem to be biting to make it a lucrative practice. It also makes me wonder how many coin collectors are really that gullable. That in itself is sad. I believe all collectors should strive to be educated enough to not fall victim to these obvious PMD coins. Also sad, some of those damaged coins were actually once nice coins. Maybe not keys to any set, but still nice.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
Yeah, I looked at it too Coop and Chadwick. Sorry about the late reply to the link. For some reason when I read the last post I didn't even notice the link to the ebay auctions there. I was getting ready to turn in for the night and I didn't even notice the link until now. Sorry about that Coop. To me, most of these coins look heated and fake and I noticed that none of them seems to be evenly toned and nobody even posted a clear pic in the auctions. I agree that there are sellers on ebay who will take full advantage of unsuspecting buyers and keep themselves safe by their choice of words in their listing. People will say stuff like uncirculated in bank roll but not include the word unsearched in the auction. I guess that it's up to the potential buyer to ask those questions before making the purchase. Anyways, thanks again Coop.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list
Oh and I should have added, I don't think that the coin that I found wasn't faked. I just never found one yet in circulation. Thanks again.
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