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1998 10 Oz Silver Maple Leaf

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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list

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I've found two of these for sale in eastern Canada, one for $550 the other for $650. The $650 one is closer.
Just too much money for me....both of them.
Still a nice coin


yes, the amount to put on single coin is very significant.
I would sell / trade 6-7 1oz's coins to get it.
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 Posted 10/28/2014  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
"yes, the amount to put on single coin is very significant.
I would sell / trade 6-7 1oz's coins to get it."

That's what I was thinking, The one local is a reseller, good guy but at times expensive at times when he knows he has something cool.
Limited market on a large coin such as this so I'm hoping to offer several attractive proofs and collectables in trade. Group of seven coins, proof libertads, lunar new year, F15 rhino. Items from my broken sets that he may find of value. Odds are I may take a bath on them but in the end if I get any where close to value for value ......cool
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 Posted 10/28/2014  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list

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Odds are I may take a bath on them but in the end if I get any where close to value for value ......cool


That's for sure.
When you offer some "regular issue" to dealer, expect to get offer, lower than you afraid to get
But, think this way:
the coins that you want to trade / sale, anyway already not valuable for you and they kind of "dead collectibles" in your collection (might be just to sell on ebay, where you will sell for better price, but it will take long time), so for them to get the "desirable item", which will make you happy - I think that's right to do.

I will add:
Being nice and rare coin, the 10oz SML already started to loose in value, I remember 2 yrs ago it priced near $700, so you hav to remember - it not for resale or investment (was in past, when people bought it for issue, but not for you, when you'll buy it on "peak").
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10/28/2014 5:03 pm
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 Posted 10/28/2014  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
Silveroid, I am always grateful for your insights. The seller here is also smart enough that if he wants to sell it, it is on the decline. I have hopes that this will keep me from too much of a loose.
regards,
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 Posted 10/28/2014  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list
@Liverpool:

Doesn't meter for which exactly cost, I wish you good luck with this project. And hope we'll see soon the "in-hand" pictures of this gorgeous SML.
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 Posted 11/03/2014  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list

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I will add:
Being nice and rare coin, the 10oz SML already started to loose in value, I remember 2 yrs ago it priced near $700, so you hav to remember - it not for resale or investment (was in past, when people bought it for issue, but not for you, when you'll buy it on "peak").


Don't forget spot price was 20$ more than it is today at this time. So the "lost value" is only the intrinsic value of the silver. At near 11oz of silver (the COA is sterling), the drop in spot price is significant!
This one is already 15 years old... it proved that it maintains it's value over time.
I'm following the 1998 10oz SML for many years now, as it is one of my favorite and I'm confident it won't lose value over time.

I got my first one with COA #33 and sold it for 750$ not that long ago. I traded over five of these in the last 12 months and I could say that 550$ is a sweet deal! Still have one in stock now and trying to lower my general inventory (big personal purchase coming) but if not I would jump on it at this price.
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11/03/2014 3:18 pm
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 Posted 11/03/2014  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list

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I'm following the 1998 10oz SML for many years now, as it is one of my favorite and I'm confident it won't lose value over time.


I will agree with this. In general.
Just not sure, if numismatic issues' market price influenced by the spot level. (only probably if you sale it to dealer).
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 Posted 11/03/2014  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list
Don't get me wrong, I'm usually the first to disregard a comment when people mix spot price and numismatic coins.
But this is when the metal content of the silver is small or negligible... like the 1oz silver glass ladybug by example. "Intrinsic value" (metal) is worth 20$ and "numismatic value" or premium, is 700$.

In this 10-11oz case, the intrinsic value is higher or about the same as the numismatic value (I assume 10.5oz).
When spot was 40$, it was selling at around 750$: Metal value of 420$ and numismatic value of 330$.
Now today's spot is at 20$ and assume a selling price of 600$, we have a metal value of 210$ and numismatic value of 390$.

So looking only at numismatic value, people are willing to pay a higher premium to get this coin now than they were two years ago... but it's not that simple. Some have a "buying price" of xx$ as a collectible, others will input the metal value in the equation. In this case, 600$ is maybe too much for a collector today. But would it still be too much if silver get back to 40$ tomorrow, knowing that the coin is now "worth" 210$ more in silver content only?


But like any other numismatic or collectible, the coin is only worth the price you're willing to pay for it. As soon as it's over the melt value, it's a value you can loose at any time.
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 Posted 11/13/2014  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
Apologies for not posting sooner. I went back to the shop the day after my last post. Regrettable the coin was gone.
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 Posted 03/15/2015  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carpman98 to your friends list
Currently $680 at J&M in Vancouver and $615 at Colonial Acres in Kitchener Ontario.
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 Posted 03/16/2015  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
carpman98

It's a great coin.
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 Posted 03/16/2015  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list
Here one on ebay coin only $409.70 (full of finger prints)
221696991299


Another one $495 coin and case no other box.
381196089408
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03/16/2015 7:14 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2015  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
The $409.70 one is priced at around $200.00 too much. Sad to see but to me it is something for stacking and worth it's weight in bullion. Nice pretty bullion but bullion.
Liverpool
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 Posted 03/16/2015  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
You see a lot of these "opened" "handled" coins. I can't help but wonder what the story would be. This 1998 Maple was expensive at the time it was 1st issued. What brought it from mint state with all of it's packaging and documents to being a pretty coaster/ paper weight full of fingerprints and scratches.
Kids?, Too much to drink?, Indifference?

Kinda sad.
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 Posted 03/16/2015  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list
A local shop owner has one of the one kilo coins in his display case and I asked him how often he sells one. Simply put he only seems to sell the bigger coins when silver is high. Call it a feeding frenzy. Other than that he sees less movement for the larger coins.
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03/16/2015 8:20 pm
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