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1957 Proof Florin

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 Posted 02/21/2012  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
It's worth what the buyer pays for it,macca's 2010 $650 but it would have gone up quite a bit since then & I believe proofs sell close to catalogue value.
If your suss on this aeller I can assure you they are 100% honest.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list
1957-Proof-Florin
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 Posted 02/21/2012  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list
Hmm, I would like to know what more experience people think about this coin, I don't exactly own any pre decimal proof coins but I do spend a lot of time researching this stuff and still learning about the proof part.

appleangel07 has put 2 and 2 together about the seller, but 100% positive feedback just means people are dumb enough give positive feedback

Everything about this coin seems too neat, and I compared to a proof of a different years pic and the wattle stems and leaves look different to this, not to mention overseas sellers are known for producing knockoffs.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list
Ah, I've found the listing.
The seller of that coin is one of the most honourable people I have dealt with.



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 Posted 02/21/2012  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list
I knew it was a sting..sel sap nancyc trout a little help please as I'm not good enough for AC felling guilty AC..don't mate I'm playing
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 Posted 02/21/2012  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellyflorin to your friends list
Ok I will show my hand , I am bidding on that coin , I am the highest bidder atm , I trust this seller , he is a very honest chap and a passionate collector , he is a member of another aussie coin forum , the proof is genuine , it was originally brought off a well known dealer in sydney .That coin will look better in the hand sometimes photos just don't give proofs justices. As what I think it is worth I will keep that under my hat
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 Posted 02/21/2012  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
The coin is authentic & the seller is honest ! if you don't want to take my word on this matter thats fine.

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Australia
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 Posted 02/21/2012  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
I do not have any experience at all with pre-decimal proofs.

This one looks fine to me, the only thing I would be concerned about is that both sides appear to have a very faint pink residue in patches. For a proof to have some sort of residue would indicate that it might have had a not altogether successful cleaning attempt.

The price at present may also be an indication that it's not in it's 'original' proof condition. If I was considering purchasing this coin, I would ask the seller about the pink tinges and also request more pictures.

I compared it to this one from a well known and respected Aussie dealer:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...p=true&rt=nc
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 Posted 02/21/2012  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list

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This one looks fine to me, the only thing I would be concerned about is that both sides appear to have a very faint pink residue in patches. For a proof to have some sort of residue would indicate that it might have had a not altogether successful cleaning attempt.


A valid point to consider when appraising a coin, although I suspect in this particular case that the pink "residue" is more likely to be a reflection.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Looks ok to me. I have only seen a couple proof florins in the flesh though. Predecimal proofs put any circulated ones to shame. if only I had the cash
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 Posted 02/22/2012  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellyflorin to your friends list
It's looks like a reflection to me (pink),by the way Mintage of 1957 proof florins were only 1,256 , the pcgs population report for this coin is PR67 1 only, PR66 x 22 , PR65 X 34, PR64 X16 , PR63 X 3 , and many of the raw coins still out there wouldn't grade at pcgs as they do have damage from the original mint packaging and have sadly been cleaned or miss treated by passed collectors I will be happy to add this coin to my collection and yes I love predecimal proofs and seen plenty.
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02/22/2012 01:11 am
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 Posted 02/22/2012  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add low to your friends list
Thank you for your interest in this listing.

Allowed me to introduce myself, my name is Low and I am a genuine collector from Malaysia.

To the best of my knowledge, this 1957 proof florin is a genuine coin in a genuine PCGS slab. Bought this from a Sydney seller several months ago.

The price at present may also be an indication that it's not in it's 'original' proof condition.

Interesting comment. I am not aware of any official restrike of Australian pre-decimal proof coins, hence the question of "original" proof coin is invalid question.

Proof coin refers to the method in striking the coin, not the term to describe the condition of the coin.

I suppose your question is: is this a proof coin or is this not a proof coin?

To me, this is a lovely proof and fortunately PCGS agrees.
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 Posted 02/22/2012  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list
low,
Not often we get feedback from a seller we are reviewing. Much appreciated you took the effort to do so.
I would be happy to buy that coin but it may be a little (lot?) above my budget.

Stick around this forum -most informative.

Cheers,
Jeff
PS. If it is in a PCGS slab best to show the label/barcode in the pictures.
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02/22/2012 03:08 am
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 Posted 02/22/2012  03:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list
The lister actually has the barcode side of the slab as the primary photo. The photo also provides an expanded contextual perspective that explains the reflections seen in the cropped photos in this thread.
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 Posted 02/22/2012  04:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list

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Interesting comment. I am not aware of any official restrike of Australian pre-decimal proof coins, hence the question of "original" proof coin is invalid question.


The 1957 proof pennies were officially restruck (in 1959). Only 470 "originals" were produced. The originals have a mirror finish (like the 1956 and earlier Perth Mint proofs) while the restrikes have a brilliant finish with a matte relief (like the 1958 and later proofs).
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