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Putting Proofs In Albums - How To Avoid Marring?

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 Posted 03/01/2012  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinmap to your friends list

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I will try fresh cotton gloves or cotton balls with the next set I put in.



Just be careful with the cotton ball, or even the kleenex, that you push straight down and not get any of it under and around the coin. I've gone back and seen pieces of kleenex sticking out the back of the coin, because I got it too close to the hole. I would imagine it would be worse with the cotton, as you would have white hairs sticking out of your coins.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list
All the more reason that I would like to see albums that hold coins with the air tite to protect the proofs.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list
Cap't, you might want to dry the page out carefully first, assuming that you put ALL coins of a specific year in the page at once. You would need to remove all the slides and any existing coins already in the page before drying. This is how I have fixed warped pages. Another trick you might consider is putting in all the quarters from the reverse side (of the page), that way, if you scratch one you won't see it that often. In place of the Kleenex (it leaves traces of lint inside the album), I use a bookmark sized card cutout from a file folder, about 2"x 6" or large enough so the cut edges do not touch the mirrored surfaces. Humidity can be a big problem with some albums, and Dansco openings are exactly sized for the coin.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
What did you use to dry the pages? Just an oven on warm or something?
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 Posted 03/01/2012  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list
I have thought about using the oven on the lowest setting, never have tried it. I am afraid it might get too hot and accidentally scorch the page, so I probably wouldn't recommend the oven. My method is simply place the page between two heavy books and let a space heater (about 18" maybe 2' away) oscillate over the edge I want dried for about half an hour. Then repeat on the other edges. I check frequently to make sure it doesn't warp the other way (or worse yet, start shrinking the openings too much) you might want to fill all the holes with pocket change just in case. In your situation, you could try the heater for 5-10 minutes or place the album in a closed box with a desiccant pack and see if that removes the added moisture. Good luck, but I believe you'll lick the problem.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Hey, would pre-cooling the coins to fridge-temp make it easier to slip them into their slots? ... or would the possible condensation be an even bigger problem?

This would make the coins smaller since cold makes metals schrink. However, the downsize is as soon as you put it into normal air, humidity would create condensation on the coins. Could be remidied by heating the coins after in the Album with a Butane Torch.
Possibly the opposite method would also work. By that I mean heating the Albums with a Butane Torch.
While the Album is flaming, the heat will make the slots larger and the coins should fall right in place.
Then simply spray with water. Just make sure it's distilled water since tap water could leave a residue.
Another simple method would be to lay the album on a solid surface, place the coin on the slot and hit with a hammer. To protect the coin, cover it with another Proof coin.
Other solutions are:
Would be to place Proof Quarters in a Half Dollar slot.
Stop collecting Proofs
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Buy the Proofs and send to me.

In a serious note though is if you remove the plastic slides, take a larger coin that is not a collecting type, place in the now empty, no plastic sliked hole and twist along the edges to enlarge the entire hole. This will allow your Proofs to more easily fall into place.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I have been putting proofs and silvers in my albums for years, and so far, knock on wood, I haven't screwed any up. Once I get them out of the case... I just line them up, and push them in with a kleenex.
I have had pretty much the same success. I usually use a white handkerchief (clean of course), but I have used tissue as well. Some have been difficult, but patience always prevails.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
Maybe you're just pushing too hard?

I know that when I was putting my Jeffersons in, that putting them in at just the wrong angle, will just ruin the coin.

That's why I tend to stay away from proofs in general.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
I did bore out the holes beforehand with another coin, it didn't help enough apparently. They still required considerable force. Maybe if I had used an impaired proof instead of a circulation quarter it would have worked better. I think the choice of rubber gloves was probably wrong. I didn't expect them to leave smudges the way they did. Cotton might work better.

Probably it requires some practice too. The ones I messed up the worst were the ones I put in first, and since they were the clad proofs, it's not like I ruined incredibly valuable coins, and "ruin" is probably an exaggeration anyway (I don't have a pressing urge to replace them yet anyhow.) The scuffs and scratches on the slides are more distracting than the ones on the coins. Only one of the silver proofs has a significant smudge.

I will work on my technique on an empty page and stunt-coins before filling in the next set. I figured lining it up and getting in as level as possible was the best way, but maybe carl's angle technique will work better. Maybe I can bevel the edges of the hole with a small dollar. And as annoying as it is, I'll remove the pages from the album first.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Man, "just carl" always has such excellent ideas ...

I've decided to freeze all of my coins and then only view them in my meat-locker (what could go wrong?)

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 Posted 03/01/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceace to your friends list
I like the idea of removing the back slide and putting them in through the back (instead of pushing them in from the front). At least don't have to worry about "pushing" on the obverse of the coin by doing that, which is the side that you will see in the albums most of the time anyhow. Also, the acetate slide won't have to slide over the obverse, which should help decrease the chance of marring while sliding the cover back in. I figure you could easily mar a coin when pushing the slide in.

For what it is worth, I also usually use a microfiber cloth when I am putting coins in my albums.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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would pre-cooling the coins to fridge-temp make it easier to slip them into their slots? ... or would the possible condensation be an even bigger problem?


Shouldn't be a problem in a sealed ziplock.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
I don't know how I'll get inside the ziplock with the coins to put them in their album. Even so, there will be humidity inside the bag which will condense.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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I don't know how I'll get inside the ziplock with the coins to put them in their album. Even so, there will be humidity inside the bag which will condense.

Special order from the Zip Lock people. Then you must simply inhale all the air out, have someone seal it from the outside, all is now safe.

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Man, "just carl" always has such excellent ideas ...

I've decided to freeze all of my coins and then only view them in my meat-locker (what could go wrong?)

Now there is one I didn't think of. Yet even in the meat-locker you would have to stop breathing or your breath would attack those coins. Imagine the damage if an ice cycle from your nose fell on a Proof.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
The main problem I have had with Danskos is the hole is too big and the coins will fall out if I don't put strips of paper to hold the coins in
I have had no problems at all with my Whitman albums
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