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Valued Member
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Thaks for your welcome. This table corresponds to southeast iberian alfhabet. I have put a small line on M as in these coins. Also sign for KO (present in some coins of this mint) So I think is easy to see semi-syllabic script.  Edited by Veton
01/28/2015 11:16 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Valued Member
Spain
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Hi. About Augustus:
Most experts agree that after the sertorian war (Sertorio died 72 BC) most iberian mints began to use latin or bilingual iberian-latin leyends and circa 45 BC with Caesar, they use -only- latin alphabet, so it is unlikely attribute to Augustus this type of coins (he was emperor from 27 BC to 14 DC). Also for historical or archaelogical references and metrology these coins seems to be earlier than Augustus time.
Although are only opinions
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Moderator
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Interesting, this is an area that is not covered very much on this forum but I would like to learn more about.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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that's an awesome pdf med, thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have a couple Castulo coins that I've found in uncleaned lots. One is done cleaning and I'll try to take pictures today or tomorrow. Doucet yours is very nice and Veton wow is that a big one!
My understanding is that while we aren't 100% sure, the general view is that these predate Augustus, and I've seen dates on them ranging from early 1st century BC back to 3rd century BC. If my Spanish was a little better I might try and track down that reference you mentioned, Veton, since there seems to be so little reference work done on these very interesting coins but I'm afraid I wouldn't get a whole lot of it...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I gathered up the willpower to set up the photography rig so here are the three currently in my collection:  3.88 g, 18.2 mm. I have this one potentially identified as Villaronga 5, which according to Wildwinds would have been minted prior to 214 BC.  5.9 g, 21.7 mm. This one I'm not sure as to the ID. The size and design are somewhat similar to Burgos 728, but it's not a perfect match and I'm not sure.  4.68 g, 18.9 mm. This one is rough, but a good match for Burgos 723. The Iberian script makes me think it was minted prior to 72 BC, but I haven't found a firm date anywhere. Sorry for the coin dump, but finding these in uncleaned lots has opened up a whole different region of coin collecting for me. I'd love to add one of the type in the OP as well someday. |
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Interesting group.
Perhaps 'Veton' can help you tidy up your attributions.
Quickly flicked through my copy of Burgos, seems we have different editions - the only coins I found similar to your second one are from Asido and especially Orippo.
Btw, it seems the top one has been wire-brushed. Are you going to clean them up a bit more? Some valuable part of the legend might become legible.
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Valued Member
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I,m sorry but I cannot say you nothig new. It seems from Castulo or Asido (second)... Perhaps you could clean up them as Medieval says, but be careful and use a soft tool like toothbrush ?
v.
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Valued Member
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I forgot, great link Medieval, I didnt know before. It is complete and updated.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, but this is only an overview/introduction - is there a good online reference you know? Don't mind whatever (European) language it is in.
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Valued Member
Spain
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Edited by Veton
01/29/2015 1:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks.
The first pdf is even more extensive than the first volume from Burgos (at least in the number of coins shown) and the first online reference is new to me, so especially thanks for that.
What a massive amount of fakes have been produced, wonder it should be a standard link in the sticky.
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Pillar of the Community
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Veton, great links. Those really should go to the sticky, I haven't seen that much information about these coins anywhere.
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