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1953 Henning Nickel (I Think I Got One)!

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 Posted 03/15/2012  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list

still looking for mine

Lots of info in search box top left.
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...Found a 1947 Henning nickel.. in box

no P mm in yours. good sign
Hope you got one!
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 Posted 03/15/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
You have 40 Hennings? How 'bout you spread some of those around to those of us who are still looking for ONE?

I was under the impression that it was an artifact of the process he used to make the dies, along with the dimples, rough appearance and other flaws, and would be a chance appearance on just one die. Have you studied your 44s often enough to know how many die pairs they represent?

After all, we're just taking the guy's word on how many dies he claimed to have. There are only five known dates, but he claimed to have six sets of dies. Maybe there were two 44 die pairs, and one each for the other 4 dates?
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 Posted 03/15/2012  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
It was always my guess that two of the dies were 1944 since we see so many of this date. According to the Dwight Stuckey book written in 1982 about the Henning nickels Henning said he made the 1944 coins and took them in rolls to the bank claiming they were from his vending business. The teller dumped one roll out and counted them. As she reroled them she commented it was interesting they were all 1944's. He said it was that experience that caused him to make other years. But he wasn't doing this very long so I don't know if he struck very many of the other years or not. Looking for them is the challenge.
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 Posted 03/15/2012  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
I always assumed that the '44 was the most common because it would stand out the most as anomalous to a roll hunter, even if they weren't looking or even knew about Hennings. But that theory makes sense too and has more historical heft (though they're not mutually exclusive).
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 Posted 03/15/2012  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
The 44 and 39 dates are the only ones that are easily identifiable by hand, I wasnt aware of the looped R being on any other date besides 39 and 44
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 Posted 03/15/2012  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
I submit to all that pyrbob is our CCF family expert on Hennings ... and I also pay attention to pyrbob opinions on the topic.

This subject has come up many time in the past ... and here is a link to an archived thread that (at the time) accumulated our best collective knowledge about Henning Jefferson nickels.

With all due respect to CND ... Note ... according to our expertise at that time ... weight alone is NOT a way to be sure!

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=53117

Relative to the OP coin ... I am not sure. The true 'hole in the R' would be good ... but read the thread above and try to match some of the other markers/characteristics that we believe define a Henning.

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 Posted 03/15/2012  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
There was a 1947 Henning with the hole in the R found on this forum about 2 years ago.
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 Posted 03/15/2012  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
nickelsearcher,

I totally agree that pyrbob is the Forum's resident Henning expert. I probably never would have dug into them as deep as I did if I didn't pull a 1939 example during the nickel survey. I used to come across a number of 1953's and 1954's that look a lot like the OP's coin. I still have them; after reading the above and the old thread that nickelsearcher provided the link to I will have to check them over closely.

I also have the Stuckey book; a friend of mine in Minnesota that is a book collector found it for me a couple years ago. Wouldn't part with that book for anything!
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 Posted 03/16/2012  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
besides the 1939 and 1944... How can you tell if the other dates are a henning or not? If they do not have the hole in the R, how can you tell?
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 Posted 03/16/2012  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardocody to your friends list
Weight 4.9 g ! I dont think all the hennings are over 5 grams as we saw here before some under 5 g .
Im not sure if I have one btw !
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 Posted 03/16/2012  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
Well the lower weight obviously does not determine it to not be a Henning. It still could be. The Stuckey book on Hennings goes more into the history of how the coins came to be and not very much on how to ID them and their characteristics. Pyrbob knows way more than I do about that. He claims that small "bumps" on the surface of the coin is a telltale way (the Mint could not produce these bumps). Also, I have heard of tiny scratches around the word UNUM is another sign. Best thing to do is go to a large show and ask the dealers there. You might come across an expert on these. Since the coin is a counterfeit none of the TPG's will authenticate it, of course.
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 Posted 03/16/2012  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardocody to your friends list
Good point !
I searched a ton of nickels and amaze-me why I never found one 44 no mm on it ?! Or the one with the big classic hole ?! As I live in jersey !
Do you think thy go through th coin counter or its rejected ? I'm startint to think the coin counters separet them otherwise we jersey searchers would come by one more offen (just my guess)!
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 Posted 03/16/2012  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
Ricardo, in my first post I listed some close up areas I would like to see. Is it possible for you to post them? Also, are you going the the Baltimore show this coming Saturday morning or are you going to the Philadelphia ANA show in August? I could look at the coin in hand at either of these.
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 Posted 03/16/2012  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I saw probably most of pyrbobs Henning nickels at the Williamsport PA Coin show. He also had a 1943 mintmark nickel that was a fake but I don't recall if he said it is attributed to Henning. I only have 1 and it does NOT have a hole in the leg of the R and it is the most common 1944 no mint mark.
I think ( but am not sure ) that all of these Hennings were made from real blank US nickel planchets though, so they would be around 5 grams each which makes the weight a non factor in determining them as Hennings.
I certainly could be wrong. As for the 1953 photo in this thread by the OP, I think it could be a Henning. It has a certain look to it.I think that the Hennings, even if hardly circulated have an appearance of being XF/AU at best because the dies used were made by using a circulated nickel.
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 Posted 03/16/2012  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardocody to your friends list
I wish I could go to the shows but I work at sundays , I can not even go to the coin club meetings couple blocks from my house because its also at sundays as well ! I ll post some close ups later !
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