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 Posted 03/17/2012  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I don't see any difference between Machine Doubling and die chatter. Machine Doubling (at least one form) is CAUSED by die chatter.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Ok, a lot of interest here so far.
Mike is correct machine doubling/die chatter are the same. Vertical die movement I made up. Die variety might be partially correct but not the correct answer in this case. I don't know and something else have been choosen.

But one question hasn't appeared yet. One that should have been asked first. Let's see if anyone can think of it?
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 Posted 03/17/2012  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
Which US gold coin has GOD on the rim of the coin?
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 Posted 03/17/2012  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
Is the area you are pointing to raised or incused?
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 Posted 03/17/2012  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
Nobody has said PMD yet.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The mark is incuse, but part of doubling. The question I was think was this: "What year is this coin?" That is one of the first questions that come to mind to me. Know ing what year will help me see what WAS going on that year.
IE: The devices on the obverse of the 2001-2003 are wider. So if someone show a coin with wide letters and it was one of those years, then I would understand what was going on with it.
IE: 1972 had a lot of master die doubling on them from all three mints. So know a coin was a 1972 I would remember this was a year that is known for master die doubling and go from there.

The coin in the image is a 1961-P. Check examples you have of this coin in your collection and let me know what you find. (I know homework. What am I, back in school? This is how you learn. Looking, examining closer and train your eye to see what is going on.)
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 Posted 03/19/2012  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list
Love the poll Coop
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 Posted 03/19/2012  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Still waiting on a report of what you see on your 1961-P Cents. The answer might surprize you?
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 Posted 03/19/2012  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list
master die doubling of 1961
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 Posted 03/19/2012  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
What-Is-This? What-Is-This?
DING! DING! DING! We have the correct answer.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
In the roll of cents I opened almost all were like this in caying degrees of die wear and from different dies. They make a large percentage of that years coinage and common. The image on coppercoins doesn't show the O, but it is most common to find that device affected. Not machine doubled, mater die doubled.
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 Posted 03/19/2012  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list
this was fun, look forward to more of these sir
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 Posted 03/19/2012  02:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I do these from time to time when I find something interesting to share with others. Probably the only time I start a thread. So if you search for my threads you will find more of these.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list
Thanks coop! Thanks for the lesson!
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 Posted 03/20/2012  03:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add phazon to your friends list
I found a 1972 one with the E that has something similar I will upload tomorrow might be a 1972 DDO but not sure but I am going to find out anyways.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
There are a lot of master die examples from 1972 from all three mints. They look like this example on the areas with arrows:
What-Is-This?
While these are doubled dies, the are as common as normal coins and do not warrant a premium.
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