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Valued Member
Australia
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Nice coins. I particularly like the wavy (my favorite coin type)and incused (probably my second favorite)
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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The remarkable thing about finding both wavy and incused coin, was that I was not expecting to find anything at the time  In the case of the "wavy", this happened close to the start of my "checking the change" episode, some 6 months ago. I looked at the coin and it somehow appeared "different". Under the magnifying glass it became very clear though. The incused was also a surprise. I was mulling through a mixture of change, I turned over a shiny and new 50 cent piece, and there it was winking at me  . Quite a shock  . I am looking forward to a "kick from a 2000 mule". Will probably happen when I least expect it ! Squire |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Squire,
Sounds like you have been pretty lucky so far.
I hope your luck holds out and look forward to a picture of your new mule.
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Australia
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Thanks to Mr. Cruise and enworb for the feedback re. mintage of the 1966 "wavy". I am curious to know why this error is so rare ?  . "www.triton.vg" mentions that a weakly formed working die has been touched up with a miniature grinder. This view is endorsed by "dollarmule.com.au". It indicates that the die was active in churning out the "wavy's" after these repairs. So why then the small number of "wavy's" ?. Any thoughts ?. Squire PS. thanks for the encouragement ozcoins. Actually, Melbourne is a good place to check your small change. Lots of "coin circulation" with the roaring restaurant businesses here ! |
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Australia
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http://www.australian-threepence.co...ine-20c.htmlA numismatist of the highest regard whom used to work for the Mint and now values the Mint's National Coin Collection has examined the wavy's in detail and suggests the wave is a result of the die being damaged, ie something falling on it creating a "ding" in the die pushing that metal up causing the wave.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Ive heard mintage for wavy being around 10-12000
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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purplepenny,
what is you best estimate at the mintage for the wavy?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I hadn't really thought about it to be honest. It was only one die which would suggest not more than 200,000 at the top end. Most likely 50,000 coins. There is no literature that I can see except maybe an article in an early ACR of which I happen to not have that issue in my ACR library...grrr
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Valued Member
Australia
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Nice finds. I have two wavey 2s. Was thinking about selling one, but cannot bear to part with it. One I found noodling and the other I got in change 15 years ago when I was still in scotland but came here on business. I carried it (without the knowledge of the importance of it) back to scotland and it went into my foreign change tub. 1 year ago I was asked by my eldest daughter if I had any world coins and I got the tub out. I nearly dropped a truffle when I saw the coin!  I had been noodling $100's of 20c coins only meters away from what I was actually looking for. Makes me laugh still. I am still looking for more though :-) |
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Australia
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You are all right about mintages and that there was 1 die used - I used the wrong word in my earlier message...not minted but 1600 - 4000 estimated to be left after considering coins taken out of circulation by mint/banks for damage etc. Read it a long time ago in an article or perhaps it was a dealer advertisement - can't remember.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I thought I would forward an enlarged image of my "wavy". It as a few features that I find interesting. They appear to be consistent with a damaged die / repaired die. Actually, these features are also in similar coins provided by "Bluesfil (26/5/2007)" and "eccentric (3/4/2011)" submissions to "Coin Community" also with the coins at http://www.coinmedalshop.com.au/a17...44_-_479.htmand http://www.aussiecoins.com/coins/tw...y%200111.jpg The features are the "rounded relief" to the wavy curvature of the baseline of the 2. I have outlined this in the red rectangle. The other feature is the downward-and-to-the-right pointing "tail" at the right hand side of the rounded swirl, as indicated in the blue rectangle. I realize that my coin is not in the best condition, but the better examples in the other links show these details also. Squire |
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Valued Member
Australia
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There is no literature that I can see except maybe an article in an early ACR of which I happen to not have that issue in my ACR library...grrr
In the letters to editor of the Australian Coin Review Vol. 5 No. 11 (May 1969) Page 15, there is a letter by R.W Taylor of Toowoomba QLD, who obtained a roll of 20c coins on Decimal Day 1966, and he found that 18 of the coins had a distinct curve in the tail of the 2, and since then he'd not found any more.....knew only two others who had the same variety, and they had just one each. Wonder how many of these were kept? I don't have a full run of ACR's, so I may be missing the issue where the wavy 2 was first discussed in an article as a new variety, as Purple Penny alluded to. Well done on finding one, Squire. It's one coin I'm most keen to find someday  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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A whole roll! |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
653 Posts |
Thanks penny dreadful. What can I say ?, I found this "wavy" in a 4 dollar bank roll of 20 cent coins from the National Bank late last year. At the time I did not know that this was one of the "holy grail's" of Australian Decimal error coins. Actually, I was disappointed that the coin was in rather ordinary condition  I had the usual anxieties about "is it real or a counterfeit"  . But a visit to a reputable coin dealer fixed this  . Finding this coin really got me enthusiastic about "noodling". In fact I have rolls of $1, 50 cents and 20 cents to go through over the weekend. I wonder what unusual coins are hiding inside these  Squire |
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Australia
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Mrcruise, I doubt that more than 60-70% of the 1966 20 cent coins have been removed from circulation so unless the original mintage was quite low (under 10,000) then far more than 4,000 still survive (so plenty should still be out there).
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