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Can Anyone Indentify This Coin, 1857 Penny Upper Canada

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 Posted 03/20/2012  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list
It's one of those coins that puts holes in your pocket.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aiglet7 to your friends list
KM# Tn3. Upper Canada Penny. 1.5 million minted. Catalogue value VG8 $4.50. VF20 $12.00. Have seen poor specimens selling on ebay for amounts far in excess of catalogue value.

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 Posted 03/20/2012  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list
Thank you everyone. I know it must be hard to see on the picture, but could this coin possibly be in VF grade ?
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 Posted 03/20/2012  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list

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....could this coin possibly be in VF grade?



Yes.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list
PC-6D (Province of Canada), Br 719, Co. 275 to 310UC, W330. Condition could not be btter than Fine. The token is made of copper. It was struck at the Heaton Mint. The bank issued notes dated from 1822 to 1861, and failed in 1866.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinGeezer to your friends list

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Thank you everyone. I know it must be hard to see on the picture, but could this coin possibly be in VF grade ?

Nope.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
I'd say vg.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list
So, even though there is no visible scratch on the coin, most details are clear and there is only slight wear that I can see, this coin grades below VF ? What other features could make this coin grade so low ?

Here is 2 other pictures:
Can-Anyone-Indentify-This-Coin,-1857-Penny-Upper-Canada
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 Posted 03/21/2012  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
These pictures show better than the first two posted where it looks like the coin is worn. Is that rim damage at 3 o'clock on the 2nd picture?
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 Posted 03/21/2012  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Look at the details of this one on ebay.You can see in comparison how much has been lost on your coin due to wear.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list
Here's one I picked up at the show last year for around $30:

Can-Anyone-Indentify-This-Coin,-1857-Penny-Upper-Canada
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 Posted 03/22/2012  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list

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These pictures show better than the first two posted where it looks like the coin is worn. Is that rim damage at 3 o'clock on the 2nd picture?
I did not see this previously, but yes, there is rim damage, although less than the AU ++ shown in the listing DBM linked:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1857-AU-Ban...em27c398a55e

Upon closer inspection, I noticed a few minor scratches on my coin, but a strong light is needed to see them.


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Look at the details of this one on ebay.You can see in comparison how much has been lost on your coin due to wear.

If I'm being honest, I don't see much difference between the one you linked and mine, apart from the one you linked being lighter in colour, and with a less faded GB flag. I think my picture does not display my coin accurately, probably due to the plastic film. I will have to take it to a coin dealer to get an idea of the grade as I'm not really a coin collector.


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Here's one I picked up at the show last year for around $30:

Was this one polished?
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 Posted 03/22/2012  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list

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I'd say vg.





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 Posted 03/23/2012  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list

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Here's one I picked up at the show last year for around $30:

Was this one polished?


Not polished. Just a nice patina. I was offered $75 for it just yesterday. It's one of the nicer ones I've come across and it's one of my favorites in my collection.
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 Posted 03/23/2012  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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I'm being honest, I don't see much difference between the one you linked and mine


Half the battle is knowing where to look. I used your first pix, brightened a bit:
Can-Anyone-Indentify-This-Coin,-1857-Penny-Upper-Canada Can-Anyone-Indentify-This-Coin,-1857-Penny-Upper-Canada

Compare detail on the crown, swirls and beads on the corny-cope-ya, handle of the swored.

Can-Anyone-Indentify-This-Coin,-1857-Penny-Upper-Canada Can-Anyone-Indentify-This-Coin,-1857-Penny-Upper-Canada

Compare top of helmet, cape, head of horse, rider's leg and swored, horse tail.
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