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Bedrock of the Community
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I think your lighting might be skewing the color a bit, the upper left corner has a significantly stronger blue tint than the other quadrants of cloth. The lower right areas that are more of an orange tone with hints of violet is fairly common on IHCs. As best I can tell, the "crackle effect" is just old toned fingerprints. MS70 is known for occasionally toning AU/MS copper in hues of blue and violet but those colors can develop naturally as well, albeit in a less vivid manner. The only way to remove the toning would be to dip the coin but then you would be left with a salmon pink IHC 
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Acetone surely cannot hurt it, so it would be worth a try unless someone could confirm it has no affect on MS70.
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Pillar of the Community
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Agree with Jbuck, try the acetone first, it won't hurt the coin at all if done properly and will most likely remove any AT without damage. Dipping copper and bronze coins in a silver tarnish remover usually makes the coins look horrendous afterwards.
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Pillar of the Community
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It does look like fingerprints but under a loupe you can see the material that was applied and how the surface sheen tore apart. I only paid 7 bucks for the coin so I'm not worried about that, just curious is all. Well, I would like to get that stuff off.
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Edited by 52Raymo 04/17/2012 5:07 pm
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Valued Member
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Looks like it could have been a spray product called layout blue. It can be removed with acetone if that's what it is.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. I will get some acetone. Right now all I have is my wife's polish remover and that's probably not as strong as regular acetone.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pending on how much you like that coin, you could try several different methods to remove the toning. Although there were 85,092,703 of those minted, that one is in relatively nice shape and cleaning may end up making it worth about $7 or more. About what you paid anyway. First try the Acetone dip. Rinse with Distilled water. No effect? Then if you wanted to continue, standard Jewlery cleaners should work. At Walmart they carry several types. One is specifically for Copper. Of course now you would be up to about $5 for the Acetone, $1 for the Distilled water, about $7 for the Walmart Jewlery Cleaner. Purchasing one or more of the other types may prove to be more succesful but again, you would be adding about $7 each to the already expensive attempt to get rid of that toning. Add in the massive cost of gasoline for a car to go to stores for those items will add even more money spent on that coin. If none of the above work, then try Lemon Juice, Tomato Juice, Vinegar, battery acid, spit, dish soap, Lava Hand soap, my neighbors home made wine. Now if that toning continues, place on a large firecraker and light the wick.  To sum up a silly amount of cleaning methods above, I really suggest leaving that coin alone. The cost of removing that toning would cost more than the same coin in the same grade without the toning.
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Pillar of the Community
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MS-70 will turn copper blue, ironically it's exactly what I'd use to REMOVE toning from anything that's not copper. So I got nothin. Sorry I can't help.
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Pillar of the Community
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You do NOT need to rinse after using acetone. It evaporates completely without leaving a residue. The only thing rinsing will do is make the coin wet.
As using something like Ezest or the like on copper is NOT a good idea, acetone is definitely the way to go. IF it is one of the mentioned products, acetone likely will remove it.
Just go to Lowes or Home Depot or the like. They carry pure acetone in the paint section.
Be sure to use it outdoors with massive fans blowing, a Tyvek suit with butyl gloves, a respirator, goggles and at least foot long tongs. Otherwise you will be accused of not being safe.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: You do NOT need to rinse after using acetone. I don't know why people always want to rinse acetone off with water. That's backwards! If, heaven forbid, I had to get a coin wet for some reason, I'd rinse the water off with acetone, not the other way around.
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Pillar of the Community
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Acetone wouldnt take it off. Dont know what else to do.
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Pillar of the Community
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stick it in the summer sun--that will fade it
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Pillar of the Community
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If acetone did not remove it, not much else to do for a copper coin. Cant imagine Verdi care would even come close to doing anything.
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Pillar of the Community
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There's probably somebody out there that would like the coin as-is. I actually know somebody building a bargain-basement Indian collection and doesn't mind problem coins if the price is right...
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Pillar of the Community
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It doesn't look natural to me but I've had a few guys tell me it's a natural occurrence. I'll probably ebay it someday. I have a bunch in my skanky penny collection.
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