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Valued Member
United States
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Actually I think that the gov. is already gearing up for getting rid of them. You take a look at a role of cents and most of them look like trash as the metal is shot. I get several per week to go thru at the bank and some of them are so bad you can barely tell what they are.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1840 Posts |
Does anyone actually use pennies anymore? I say ditch them and maybe make a circulated 50 cent piece.
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Valued Member
United States
342 Posts |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve, where I am at, there is no tax on food. However, fuel for example has massive taxes applied and they are talking about increasing it again. There is no way that they would round down, they are arguing about a 10th of a cent in gas tax currently. Sure wish you were right, but in Maryland there will be no rounding down. Jim
Jim, Here in New York Taxes are over 60 per Gallon but the price is still rounded to the closest cent,up or down. Right now the price is $2.339 per Gallon. If I buy.... 13 Gal. = $30.407 I pay $30.41 8 Gal. = $18.712 I pay $18.71 Sometime up, sometimes down. Most people pump to the dollar not the gallon so its rather moot but it works the same with sales tax too. 8.25%, cash registers are set to round to the closest cent. Sometime up, sometimes down.
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Valued Member
United States
455 Posts |
quote Scoutjim99: "well thinking as a Tax payer I would agree with Andrew289 but as a coin collector I hate to see them go"
Scoutjim, I would miss them too, but when you consider the buying power of the denomination when it was originally issued (200+) years ago, vs. what it can purchase today, I don't think there's much to decide. Keeping the cent and the nickel in 2007 would be the equivalent of issued coins valued at 1/100 of a cent or a nickel back in 1800. Sure I'm using round figures for purposes of illustration, but our currency denominations clearly need to be revamped to catch up with the times.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2600 Posts |
Doc, I can capitulate on how the retail industry applies rounding. I just don't think the govt's. cash register has a round down button.  Jim
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
The rounding works out both ways 0.06 and 0.07 are rounded down, and 0.07 and 0.09 are rounded up, so statistically you should end up paying the same. Also, the rounding is applied to the total, so the most you ever end up paying extra here is $0.02, on the flipside you can end up paying $0.02 less.
So much of the rest of the world has gone through this process that it takes just a few hours to figure out that the next effect on the economy is zero. Given that you accept this argument the next argument raised is always:
'but there will be profiteering, if given the choice a retailer will change an old $0.96 price to $1.00 to get a few cents more'
Well in this case market forces will sort it out. If retailer A just changes his $0.96 price point to $1.00 then the free market dictates that someone will either leave it at 0.96 or go down to 0.95 to try to win more business.
The other thing to consider here is that the USA used to have 1/2cents, the UK used to have 1/2 penny (even 1/4 pennies). All these denoms were dropped, and guess what? No economic collapse, the countries still exist.
When I hear stories of people in the USA throwing cents away because it's just too much trouble I cringe. Getting rid of the cent is the only sensible thing to do. People who have considered all the factors rationally and then still say it will cause economic collapse are clearly in the tin foil hat brigade and shouldn't be listened to.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
9445 Posts |
I think we need to bring the U.S., kicking and screaming, into the 21st century and lets not mention a metric system!! Steve   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2254 Posts |
quote: in the tin foil hat brigade and shouldn't be listened to
   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2600 Posts |
Markn, I do not think there was any suggestion that eliminating the cent was going to cause the collapse of the U.S. economy. In the long run it may well be the correct thing to do. To believe that in the short term there would not be some adverse conditions is a little myopic. Every time I get a little full of myself, I put on my tin foil and march back to humility and I am hearing a drum beat.....Hup two three four. Jim
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
"To believe that in the short term there would not be some adverse conditions is a little myopic"
There may well be localized adverse conditions (ie your milk price may go up and you wont be happy about it). However Nationally I would be stunned if it even showed up as the slightest blip. It certainly didn't here or in the UK or the EU.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2600 Posts |
Markn, I completely agree. Long term things will always find a correct balance. I have always been thing short term on this thread and I hope you are right, because it looks like it is coming whether we like it or not. Jim 
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
Hi Jim,
Well I think your country will be better off doing it. 5 years after the change you'll look back and wonder why you kept the cent for so long after all!
Mark
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Valued Member
United States
439 Posts |
I love my Lincolns but I think they should be phased out. It's just not needed anymore IMO.
At the same time they should just bite the bullet and do away with the paper dollar as well and use that extra space in cash registers where cents used to be for dollar coins.
Of course the politicians would be scared of losing a vote somewhere down the line so they'll never do it.
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Valued Member
United States
288 Posts |
Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Ya gotta admit they are cheap enough to actually collect. Just tell the mint to make less than 50 million or so, each of a different design. (Business strikes not bogus proofs at a profit). Perhaps change the reverses at the different mints instead of adding mintmarks. Put Geronimo or another Chief on the coin. Anything to make them more interesting and collectible. Goofy would make sense. How many collectors out there got started as kids with the lowly cent? Who could afford more. Coin collectors should boycott all mint products if the Gov. dumps the cent. My first Cherrypick was a 1955 DDO cent...Yes that one.. I was in first grade. It was 1959. I started in 1957... collecting cents. I am still at it. Will my children and grandchildren be collectors? Dump the politicians and keep the Cent.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
560 Posts |
You got it right triggersmob! This country can be so third world at times.
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