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Pillar of the Community
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Im keen to see them goatie  This one isn't a very good alteration IMO. |
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ok goatieman i'll have a look, I have 1 altered date i'll post a pick of that too
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A lot of people are prepared to pay a lot of money for an altered date Penny because it's as close to a genuine as it will get My own theory is that these coins go for a lot of money because the buyer is intending to on-sell it as a genuine coin....But this coin would have to be the most amateurish altered date I have ever seen.  |
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Why on Earth would you want to pay more than 10 bucks for a fake of this quality?
why would you pay anything for a fake regardless of the quality. A fake is a fake is a fake. I tend to agree with MOR's idea that it is purchased with the intent of selling as a genuine coin. All these altered dates should be destroyed and we should never bid on these "pretenders". No serious collector would have one of these within 5 miles of their collection. I have been duped by fakes before and they all suffer the same fate. .243 at 50 meters  |
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I know sel keeps fakes to arm him with knowledge. I think this is a good idea presuming the fakes dont cost much. $450 for a reference coin is stupid. I agree with MOR's theory.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Northampton, eh?
That's roughly $2.70 per shot, circa 160 grains per projectile, 65 grains of benchmark 11 powder. M.V. ~ 2,300 fps.
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Northampton, eh?
That's roughly $2.70 per shot, circa 160 grains per projectile, 65 grains of benchmark 11 powder. M.V. ~ 2,300 fps.
Geraldton. about $3 per shot.. 60 grains fmj projectile,38.0 Grains AR2206H powder, M.V. 3,812 fps. Does the job I have used 100 grain partition rounds but there is not much left of the coin, If you can find it with these  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I bought an altered date penny that included a letter from the RAM authenticating it as a non-genuine 1930 penny (an authentic genuine non-genuine coin!). I think that having the letter is the coolest part of having it. I was reading old ACR mags and they talked about what constituted wrongdoings. You were allowed to own these altered coins as they were legitimate pennies, you were allowed to sell them as altered date coins, but if you tried to sell one as a 1930 penny then you were breaking the law.
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Pillar of the Community
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an authentic genuine non-genuine coin They obviously could not remember how to spell Fake |
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Edited by Basil
05/29/2012 08:02 am
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Everyone wanted to see them, so I've pulled them out. Purplepenny can you scan a copy of that letter for me? I would love a copy! The one in my Penny set:  A fairly average altering job...or maybe it's an overdate 1930 over 1931?  Another...odd colouring  Reasonable  Huge round O  Silvered one from Downies (my most expensive $80 ex comms.)  A contemporary lead copy? Forgery?  China...love you long time (just to see the job they did)  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Some of them are OK goatieman. The silvered one isn't pretty good. That coin with a one still visible is fairly dodgy |
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Nice selection. The China one looks to me to be the most credible. Did it start out as 1920?
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for sharing; it always makes me more confused the more I try to learn about the 1930 penny. Your coins are fantastic!
I have a few china copies that I have toned down to see how they do it.
The china stuff gets better and better now days and it get so hard to spot a fake. And I used to keep in contact with one of the main china dudes who manufacture these. Fun fact is he now works training US money experts how the fakes are made and how to detect them.
I did once read how they copy coins, something along the lines that they get a real coin or a similar one and put it in a machine that bounces lasers off it and it can make a pretty close copy die. Most of them tho have lighter detail in the stamp.
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