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Washington Quarter Design: Gone Forever?

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 Posted 10/30/2017  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Starting in 2021, following the release of the Tuskegee Airmen national park quarter to conclude the series, it would be nice to see the presidents rotate on the quarter dollar instead of the failed dollar coin program.

It may not end in 2021, the Sec of the Treasury has the option to do a second round. In theory it could last until 2033.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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It may not end in 2021, the Sec of the Treasury has the option to do a second round. In theory it could last until 2033.
And we all know they will do a second round.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
I liked the "spaghetti" hair. Gave the coin character I think. All these commemorative are getting way out of hand. I hate these low relief coins. What's next? State Park quarters!? The US Mint is destroying the hobby. Need to either go back to the pre-state quarter design or something new and stick with it.
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11/02/2017 09:15 am
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 Posted 11/02/2017  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wulffy11 to your friends list
To Bret. We are still waiting on some technology to devour all petty cash transactions. So many methods are out there, such as ApplePay and Venmo. Whenever that completely happens, we will be on the road to seeing coins and paper go obsolete.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Whenever that completely happens, we will be on the road to seeing coins and paper go obsolete.
I agree. This could happen within the next generation or two.
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 Posted 11/08/2017  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ljenkins990 to your friends list

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And we all know they will do a second round.


If so, 2022 is only a little over 4 years away. Assuming they do a second round, how long in advance would the wheels have to start turning? I wonder what they will do for states, such as Arkansas, which only have one National Park - presumably they'd have to select some other important site, I'd hate to think they'd start skipping states that way.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I doubt they will skip states. They may choose to show their statehouse or some other landmark. They may have to get more creative though.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The law specifies national parks or national sites. Or something like that. They had to do that because there was one state that has no national park.

Here is how it is worded

(A)In general.—
Notwithstanding the fourth sentence of subsection (d)(1) and subsection (d)(2), quarter dollars issued beginning in 2010 shall have designs on the reverse selected in accordance with this subsection which are emblematic of the national sites in the States, the District of Columbia and the territories of the United States.

So it isn't National Parks.

And the Secretary of the Treasury has to make his decision about a second round before the end of the ninth year of the series. So until the end of 2018.

(B) Second round at discretion of secretary.—
(i)Determination.—
The Secretary may make a determination before the end of the 9-year period beginning when the first quarter dollar is issued under this subsection to continue the period of issuance until a second national site in each State, the District of Columbia, and each territory referred to in this subsection has been honored with a design on a quarter dollar.

Once the program does end this is the mandated design for the quarter.

(8)Designs after end of program.—Upon the completion of the coin program under this subsection, the design on—

(A) the obverse of the quarter dollar shall revert to the same design containing an image of President Washington in effect for the quarter dollar before the institution of the 50-State quarter dollar program; and

(B) notwithstanding the fourth sentence of subsection (d)(1), the reverse of the quarter dollar shall contain an image of General Washington crossing the Delaware River prior to the Battle of Trenton.


Definition of what a "National Site" is

(9)National site.—
For purposes of this subsection, the term "national site" means any site under the supervision, management, or conservancy of the National Park Service, the United States Forest Service, the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, or any similar department or agency of the Federal Government, including any national park, national monument, national battlefield, national military park, national historical park, national historic site, national lakeshore, seashore, recreation area, parkway, scenic river, or trail and any site in the National Wildlife Refuge System.
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 Posted 11/09/2017  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
The United States quarter and dollar coin programs are pure hokum. Perhaps in a sense these programs bring people to collect coins. Then collectors like myself are completely driven away by all the nonsense. So I'm not really sure what the net gain of collectors of these quarters and dollars are being gained when so many are deciding not to collect these.
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Aye, Muchas Gracias Senor Conder!
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 Posted 11/10/2017  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Then collectors like myself are completely driven away by all the nonsense.

Completely? So you have stopped collecting coins because of the quarter and dollar programs? That's a little extreme, why not just collect something else?
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 Posted 11/11/2017  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I have said it before, although not in a while... Just because the mint makes it does not mean you have to collect it.
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I don't mind a different reverse design each year, kind of like they are doing with the dollar coin these days. It keeps things interesting but reasonable.

Another idea might be the way the British handled the Pound coin, a set of rotating designs.

I think however it is all for naught. Coins themselves will be obsolete well before a new round of quarters would be finished if the series is renewed and they would be issued as collector sets only. Paper money wouldn't be far behind.
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I think however it is all for naught. Coins themselves will be obsolete well before a new round of quarters would be finished if the series is renewed and they would be issued as collector sets only. Paper money wouldn't be far behind.
Possible.
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