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The RCMP extract I posted is only in reference to transactions, as that is what is most commonly encountered. A retail-customer point of sale transaction.
They are correct that retailers may specify what they are paid in, and customers do indeed have the option of turning down certain types of change. I myself have refused to take a $5 bill offered to me in change. It was a very ratty, journey series without the hologram strip, the golden leaves looked wrong. They gave me a different $5 note as change instead.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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What this might mean is anyone's guess, other than the sale of the $200for$200 was pushed forward from May to August - snipped from RCM's 2nd quarter report ending July 2, 2016 released last week: Numismatics revenue in the second quarter was significantly impacted by the lower sales of face value products partly impacted by management actions to mitigate risks associated with returned products. Management continues to monitor the performance of the face value program.http://www.mint.ca/store/dyn/PDFs/R...%20FINAL.pdf
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Canada
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As mentioned before, no business in this country is obligated to take ANY currency should they chose not to. You see businesses refuse $100 bills all the time. It's their prerogative. That includes the banks should they chose not to (and many do from non clients because it actually costs them money to ship the coins back to the mint). I for one no longer pay out face for most FV series coins. From a business perspective, there just isn't any margin in it.
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Valued Member
Canada
192 Posts |
Just curious, who (other than the mint) would sell you FV coins at less than face when they can cash them in at their bank?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Many people read about the $x for $x coins (such as this thread, especially the title of the topic) and assume they can't be taken to the bank. I've heard of dealers buying them at 80% of face value, then taking them to the bank themselves.
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Quote: Just curious, who (other than the mint) would sell you FV coins at less than face when they can cash them in at their bank? Dealers do not get FV coins below FV (that would be nice wouldn't it?). Not all bank branches will take the coins, and rarely will they take them from non customers. I sent a guy to my TD branch with $650 in FV coins only to have him come back 10 minutes later because he wasn't a client. Some people do not want to be bothered and will sell the coins for 18 bucks just to save the walk and often a headache. Keep in mind that many of these coins are given as gifts.
Edited by TheCoinHunter 08/21/2016 1:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@NeoSpec, although many have successfully returned them to the bank for FV, others have had trouble. It depends I think on the particular bank and your relationship with them. If you are having trouble cashing them in you might well sell them for less than FV if you really need the money.
One of my LCS as a courtesy will take small amounts of them-that is where I got rid of my 20 for 20 when I gave up on the series.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Anyone in the northern GTA still looking to cash in their XX for XX. Canadian Coin & Currency accepts them and gives you cash.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have seen on craigslist in metro Vancouver someone trying to sell them for 80% FV, and he had a few hundred, so someone could have made a few bucks
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Perhaps of interest, from The Royal Mint that recently discontinued cashing XforX in Great Britian, this is what they say: Available to purchase from The Royal Mint website right now, the mintage is limited to 45,000 units, down from the 50,000 of the previous releases. There has been rising concern about the ability to cash these in for face value and the mint has started incorporating some notes in their coin description to clarify matters, which we've reproduced below......
Commemorative coins are generally treasured for their aesthetic and collectable value, or for their rarity. Collectors appreciate the detailed hand-finished processes and expert skills used to make them. All coins made by The Royal Mint are legal tender, whether commemorative or circulating. However, only circulating legal tender coins are designed to be spent and traded at businesses and banks.This coin is a commemorative coin so banks, post offices and shops will not accept them. If individual customers wish to discuss the return of this coin now or in the future please contact our customer services team on......http://agaunews.com/royal-mint-trafalgar-2016-100/
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Why anyone buys any RM NCLT coins with massive premiums is beyond logic they are all just tokens or medals with the Queen's image a small step better than a Franklin mint product and their logic is misleading saying on one hand they are legal tender but they are not.
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Valued Member
Canada
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ace_ftw -- hey, if you ever see that again, please post it to the flash sale thread :) [$x for $x going for less than face]. Thanks!
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Valued Member
Canada
192 Posts |
Quote: their logic is misleading saying on one hand they are legal tender but they are not. Gotta love the double-speak there. "This is legal tender that you can't take to your bank."
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5324 Posts |
If anyone keeps supporting the RM by buying their NCLT, you deserve what you get
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Canada
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Quote: If anyone keeps supporting the RM by buying their NCLT, you deserve what you get
I love my 2nd home, Canada, and I love my Canadian NCLT (but I'm also quite frank that the quality, by my standards, does not match the price with many of the coins in my collection). Yes, it's disappointing. I've been looking more closely at the US Mint and Perth Mint... a month or two back I picked-up the Perth Year of the Monkey 1 oz. silver and it's not the sharpest coin in my collection, but it gives every single RCM coin I have a run for it's money, especially when you consider price... 1 oz. BU @ 41.00 that's cleaner than many RCM numbered releases (i.e. their baby: specimen) at 2x the price. Hopefully someone from the mint is still keeping tabs here... It seems they're affecting their customers, whether new or long-standing, in generally negative ways with a variety of their practices, i.e. sales tactics, pricing, confusion, questionable quality control (honestly, I think they fired QA/QC because they figure it's cheaper to process the returns than it is to pay somebody to prevent them).
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