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1907 Indian Gone Bad....

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 Posted 09/20/2012  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Thanks everyone, it was fun to experiment.
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 Posted 09/21/2012  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCollector to your friends list
Wow that coin looks way nicer than before! This is one of the few exceptions where cleaning a coin might have raised the value.
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 Posted 09/21/2012  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Thanks CC ! Hey, I just got a cpl tombacs in the mail yesterday. I love em especially the one you use as your avatar. The morse code that replaces the denticles is just too cool.
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 Posted 09/21/2012  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
You saved her!
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 Posted 09/21/2012  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
I sent her to NinaMason today. She will have a new home in a few days and I believe Nina will keep good care of her.
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 Posted 09/21/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
Nina will put her in a flip and keep her safely in a box of IHCs and wheats from the 1910s so she won't gather any further damage. She'll have a good home here for sure.

Thank you again so much, Raymo!
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 Posted 09/22/2012  01:11 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
You're welcome Nina. Let me know what kind of shape the letter is when it gets there.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
Ray, just got your letter (in perfect condition, incidentally), and she's BEAUTIFUL!!! If it's all right with you, I may ask the mods if I can take a picture and make her my avatar (since we've picked up another Proof IHC around here--I have no problem sharing an avatar, except that then I keep seeing posts, not checking the name, and then going "when did I write that?"). I love the "mid" toning that you added after cleaning her up--not the super-dark brown I'm used to, but not the incongruous bright 'n' shiny that so many cleaned coins have. It looks wonderfully natural.

Having seen the coin in-hand, I will repeat what I said before: although the methods used may be considered "cleaning" by PGCS or ANACS, I don't feel this was a cleaning at all--I feel it was a near-expert restoration. I held the coin as close to my eyes as I could without losing focus and could just barely make out some teensy, tiny . . . I don't even want to call them "scratches," they're so minor, where I assume you had to scrape at the solder. (And for the record, my close eyesight is 20/18--BETTER than perfect. So for me to have trouble seeing it, you did a fantastic job.) I would happily call this coin AU-58 details (since, as mentioned, a lot of folks would consider it "cleaned"), maybe even a grade better.


And for any coin-cleaning purists, I'd be happy to take some pictures in daylight tomorrow and let you see a closer "after" to compare with the disastrous "before." This is definitely the coin, and the cleaning job, that is the exception proving the rule.

Finally, again, Ray: thank you so, so much for this lovely lady. This is a coin I'll own and cherish with pride.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  10:54 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Youre welcome Nina ! I'm surprised it got there so fast. I was curious about sending a coin in a regular envelope if it would go through their sorting machines. Lol, I received a coin one time from a guy and the coin was sticking halfway out of the envelope. Just a hair more and it wouldve been out in the wild again, lol.

I'm glad you liked her, she deserved a new home. She has some great bones for an abused coin.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list
I'm shocked the solder didn't do more damage. If not for that ding in the headdress, I'd say MS-grade before the solder was poured on--someone clearly didn't know what a treasure they had. This coin is so lovely, it makes me sad the design ever went away.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
That's awesome I'm glad you like her. You can copy my pics from this thread if you want and use them anyway you feel like.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wdpayne to your friends list
Carrying a coin around definitely works - I've been doing this for a long time to retone cleaned copper coins
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 Posted 09/25/2012  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Wdpayne...do you have any before and after pics ?
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 Posted 06/24/2013  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randy0050 to your friends list
could a grading company tell it was cleaned ?
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 Posted 06/24/2013  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Oh I'm quite sure they could with no problem.
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