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 Posted 07/14/2012  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add esandweiss to your friends list
Ya it's Horrible
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 Posted 07/14/2012  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1967Canadapenny to your friends list
Stamp collecting has really gone downhill, with the advent of e-mail, less people are handling stamps, and thus less youth become interested in stamp collecting
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 Posted 07/14/2012  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
Lousy value makes for some bargains. Prices are like Red Book prices. You generally just apply a percentage (albeit a lower one than for Red Book). Most 19th Century you can pick up for 20-25% of List. After 1930 or so you can get almost everything for LESS than FACE VALUE. Huge runs of mint stamps for 85 cents on the dollar. I bought a boat load and cherry picked the nice ones for my collection. Sold the rest to my business to use as postage. You can even get rolls of modern forever stamps for 95 cents on the dollar! All of that will always be good for postage. I'm down to 3 items I will probably have to go to an auction to get, and they aren't available very often. So I'm over here working on my coin collection!
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 Posted 07/15/2012  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I wonder if about a zillion people say RedBook as one word. Odd that that came up. I never thought of if it was one word or two.

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But a point of clarification to all, it is the Red Book, not the RedBook (which is a women's magazine).

And too, it is all capitals on the cover, Red Book.
I always suggest that people go to the Whitman web site and request a catalog. It is about 90 pages long and even the catalog if full of informaion. Such as they make all kinds of items for coin collecting. Naturally, their prices in the catalog are excessive since they are basically an organization that sells to dealers in bulk quantity.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Look and learn. Find out what attracts your eye (Purty coins works great for me). Invest in cheaper coins, and find out why they are cheaper coins. I watch for coins and currency as I go through life, finding change in many places. Keep an eye out for anything unusual in circulation. Get into metal detecting, roll hunting, or raiding the penny dishes at Hadji marts late at night. It's a good hobby and should be fun. Most significant others don't understand fun, thus there are support groups called 'coin clubs'.

Also, keep an eye out for US commemoratives for me!

Good luck!
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 Posted 07/17/2012  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Out of curiosity, Assuming a new collector is told the need a Red Book and they go google it what do they find? If you use Red Book it first shows up just about at the bottom of the second page of results. If you use RedBook, it shows up at the end of the fourth page.

If you go to the library or a bookstore and ask for a Red Book, do they hear one or two words?

I didn't realize they now have Red Book on the cover. Any idea when they started doing that? I know it wasn't on the early ones.
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 Posted 07/17/2012  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
When I was told to get a Red Book I went to Amazon and searched for " Red Book coins". It doesn't matter if you search " Red Book" or " RedBook" as long as you add "coins" to the search. I just assumed there may be another Red Book out there and only wanted the one for coins.
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 Posted 07/17/2012  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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If you go to the library or a bookstore and ask for a Red Book, do they hear one or two words?
Good point.

This, of course, backs up my position on keeping the conversation here.
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 Posted 07/17/2012  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mwr1550 to your friends list

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also dont buy the "Bluebook" (yes it exists) thats like a sears christmas catalog



How do you mean?
The only difference I see in the Red or Blue book is the prices, The Blue book is supposed to be dealers prices. I bought one so I had some idea what dealers were willing to pay for coins. Then I use that to come up with a price I may offer them. Is this wrong?
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 Posted 07/17/2012  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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didn't realize they now have Red Book on the cover. Any idea when they started doing that? I know it wasn't on the early ones.

1999 52nd edition is the first one with the name Red Book on the cover. I have all of them and just went pulling them out one at a time until I found that one.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I just knew you would be able to answer that question.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list
what I mean is the prices in the blue book are low and you probably wont get a coin for that price
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 Posted 07/19/2012  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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what I mean is the prices in the blue book are low and you probably wont get a coin for that price

Very possibly true. Of course that is so much depending on the coin, the dealer, the seller, the weether, your appearance, the time, the year, etc.
Remember there is no manufacturers suggested retail price on a coin.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list
The Red Book has prices that you may expect if you are buying from a dealer (retail). The BLUE BOOK has prices that you may expect if you are selling to a dealer (wholesale).
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 Posted 07/20/2012  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list


And both are only approximations (at print time) of the market. Too many people read a number and think that's what they'll get. I love providing those upper-limit numbers to my insurance company though.

As many have said before, they're a good gauge of relative pricing and great for facts and determining scarcity. There are better sources out there for current pricing though -- the market doesn't change once a year like these books do. I'm really not sure how much sense it makes to print dollar values in these guys or even print two books anymore. Why not do like the Beckett publications do and print a high and low value. And then expect to get one third of the "low" value when you go to sell (darn it) ;)

RedBook - Magazine geared towards the lovely ladies
Red Book - Coin guide geared towards the optimist
Blue Book - Coin guide geared towards the pessimist

;)
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