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My First Two Ancient Coins

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 Posted 07/12/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list
If you have the coin in hand you can examine the edge to see if there are any signs of a seam. Also if there are any cast bubbles on the surfaces.

Good photos of both sides would help those on the forums make a determination.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
I agree ...



a) => take a poop-load of photos so that the pros on this site can get a better "feel" for your specimen/coin ...

b) is it too personal/sensitive to ask what you paid for the suspect owl?

c) because if I remeber correctly, David Sear's blessing ranged anywhere from $40 to $75, depending upon whether you want a yes-no answer, compared to a thorough coin description/background ... plus, whether you wanted it to wait in a queue or whether you wanted to know ASAP!! (and yes, of course I paid $75 ... I had to know!))

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 Posted 07/12/2012  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
I'm glad to know there is a fellow collector who is frugal Coindog.

I would also like to ask where you purchased the coins. This can make a big difference as well. If you bought from a well known and distinguished dealer or from ebay (not all coins sold on ebay are fakes - I know some very well respected dealers who also sell on ebay). If the seller is one of these respected dealers, there will be a guarantee of authenticity.

One last point. Before you decide to spend the money to have your coins authenticated by David Sear or any other service, I agree with MartiVltori. Post your coins and questions on forumcoins.com. There are a collection of experts who frequent that web site such as Andrew McCabe and Curtis Clay to name a couple. They can be brutal, but they will be honest.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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it weighs in at 4.04 grams.
Yeah...that could explain a lot of things, such as the flan shape/size, the design details, and the crack! I honestly haven't seen many owl drachms, so this is one for the real experts. I hope it turns out to be legit--those aren't as common as tetradrachms, I think.
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 Posted 07/13/2012  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
Doucet looking over the coin there doesn't seem to be a seam or any cast bubbles. I'll try and get some better photos in the morning.Then on to forumcoins.com and here of course.

Jwharper I bought it at a coin store that does NOT have any specialization. These were the only two ancient coins he had.I can handle brutal over the computer no one can see me cry.

Steve6 I paid 26 for it and 40 for the other after a long debate. I would probably splurge for the details if it came out genuine. If not I wouldnt want the info. I read it could take two months, that might kill me. Poop load of pictures coming right up.
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 Posted 07/13/2012  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
"I paid 26 for (the owl drachm)"
You know...if it turns out to be real, that's one of the best deals I've heard of for a Greek coin. Just to get things moving along, I'll scan the fake databases for a match; it won't be hard to spot a copy with that crack.
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 Posted 07/13/2012  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Dude => in my books => if you really did only pay $26, then quit your cryin' and put the puppy into your "suspect owl drachm" category .... brutal

=> at least with my scandal, we were at $400 or $500 bucks ... man, I'll buy that fake thang of of you for $26 ... problem solved

=> I'll put it in my ever increasing collection of "what the fah am I doin' collection ancient cooins!!?' collection

... go ahead, buy some more coins ...
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 Posted 07/13/2012  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
Yeah I figured 26 bucks was an ok deal just because I know NOTHING about ancient coins so I figured what the heck why not.
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 Posted 07/13/2012  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Well, crisis solved then ... but it would still be nice to know if that dog hunts, or if it's a fake!!?

... ummm, is anybody still on that $26 hunt?

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 Posted 07/14/2012  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
I am that's for sure
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 Posted 07/14/2012  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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... ummm, is anybody still on that $26 hunt?
Do you mean...trying to verify this coin, either way? I checked the databases, and did not find a match with that crack through the owl. If the coin can be substantiated as struck, that would sure be a good sign!
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 Posted 01/21/2013  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list
How about an update folks?
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 Posted 01/24/2013  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
Hey Harrison sorry I haven't gotten much accomplished in the way of verifying the owl. I haven't bitten the bullet and sent it in yet either. I have however talked with a few people in my coin club who know more about them and they all seem to think its real or a very good fake.
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 Posted 01/24/2013  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
Hey Harrison sorry I haven't gotten much accomplished in the way of verifying the owl. I haven't bitten the bullet and sent it in yet either. I have however talked with a few people in my coin club who know more about them and they all seem to think its real or a very good fake.
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 Posted 01/24/2013  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list
Well, thanks for the update! I really enjoyed reading the thread.
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