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You Vs PCGS: Example Of 'Buy The Coin, Not The Holder!'

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 Posted 08/05/2012  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list


I'd go with MS64, but I think they gave it a 66.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list
A 63 at best imo. Look at those marks on the eagle's head! And there are plenty of marks on focal areas of the obverse too.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
A lot of contact marks for a quarter, therefore MS61/62 at best.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The dies which struck this coin are quite worn. Loose some value because of this.

There is an ugly row of contact marks on the reverse, extending the the eagle's breast, and up into the neck.

Without those marks, MS64, MS62 or 1 with them, unfortunately.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJB17 to your friends list
Since you were astounded Flip, I'm going to guess that it was because the grade was a little lower than you'd expect. So I'll say AU58.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlipOfACoin to your friends list
A few of you were right on the money (pun intended)! PCGS must have missed this coin in quality control, because they gave it a...
You-Vs-PCGS:-Example-Of-'Buy-The-Coin,-Not-The-Holder!'
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 Posted 08/05/2012  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
Wow. I would have said nice 63 or weak 64.
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 Posted 08/05/2012  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list
Looks MS-65 to me.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Sell that slab as quickly as you can! However, if you are going to be honest, at least say something about those contact marks.

For example: "Some small contact marks on the reverse."

A professional coin dealer with a reputation to protect would at least do that.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlipOfACoin to your friends list
I don't own this coin, I just saw it listed for sale.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
That one is a black eye for PCGS.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list
Wow. The grader must've been in a really good mood when he graded that one. Maybe leaving for vacation the next day?
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 Posted 08/10/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Yes I agree with the majority MS 63/64.....Thats my humble opinion.
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 Posted 08/10/2012  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I think the PCGS grader must have had a good night before with his missus!
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 Posted 08/14/2012  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
Remember the coin is graded for many things, one being the Year of the coin, I did think the coin would be graded a solid 63, chatter and all, and are also in shock about the grade. I see the wear from the dies, and am thinking about what people say on this site, that they would trust a PCGS slab unseen over other TPG'S, I do NOT trust anyone grading my coins, I do not need people to give me "their opinions" about my coins.

It does show that the grading "Game" is a very subjective topic, I will trust my eyes and keep my money, putting it towards more coins, instead of sending them to another person who charges me to grade coins, why would I do that...... I am foremost a collector, not a seller ......:) JMO.......
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