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Think This'll Help With My Cruddy Coin?

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 Posted 08/08/2012  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list


Cannot believe I just say that!
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 Posted 08/08/2012  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
What a terrible set no pick to get those spots around the lettering, no buffer, no grindstone, mp even a finishing polish lol
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 Posted 08/08/2012  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Just clamp the coin the the vise and go to town.
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 Posted 08/08/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tjmcman to your friends list
Ok, a newbie asking a question. I understand the feedback here on cleaning, but I find the name of the device interesting and it gets back to a question that kind of got lost a few weeks back.

While everyone probably saw Nic to stand for Nickel, I first read 'nicotine' in the name and was reminded of a number of coins I've seen from heavy smoking houses that were coated with years of nicotine.

The question for y'all would you like these gunked up coins in your collection or would you choose to perform some 'cleaning' to get the years of real gunk off what could be some beautiful coins?

Thanks,
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 Posted 08/09/2012  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list

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is that for sale at the Philly show?


Yep, Dave bought it too clean is coins, but that's OK he knows what he's doing.
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 Posted 08/09/2012  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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While everyone probably saw Nic to stand for Nickel, I first read 'nicotine' in the name and was reminded of a number of coins I've seen from heavy smoking houses that were coated with years of nicotine.

The question for y'all would you like these gunked up coins in your collection or would you choose to perform some 'cleaning' to get the years of real gunk off what could be some beautiful coins?

That Nicotine is actually the tars from cigarett, pipe and cigar smoke. Not easy to get off but Acetone does a little good. I've tried some on coins found on the floor of a bar and it worked OK. Nothing fantastic, but OK.
You said what COULD be some beautiful coins. Tuff choice since if they are that bad that the stuff on them is called GUNK. If a coin is not worth a lot of expendatures on solvents to remove any GUNK, I would think you would first attempt to find out just how valuable a coin is. You could end up spending money on dagerous, flamable or even toxic chemicals in an attempt to salvage a coin worth a few dollars or less. And in many instances, people end up ruining a coin with excessive cleanings.
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 Posted 08/09/2012  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list
It's almost as bad as all the sarcasm in this thread!
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 Posted 08/09/2012  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
The wire brush will make even the most discriminating collector want one...
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 Posted 08/09/2012  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
The wire brush is for amateurs. You need an air eraser. It's a micro sandblaster. Everybody knows that hairline scratches are taboo. The air eraser doesn't leave any scratches.

I'm actually only being half sarcastic here. Desperate times call for desperate measures. I bought a type set at bullion value. It was full of coins that had already been buffed to a disgustingly high polish. I didn't care for the look or the feel of them. I did indeed use an air eraser with baking soda as an abrasive, to matte the polished surfaces. The coins are buried in my back yard, where they'll remain through several rainfalls. That could take a month or so. Once I dig them up, I'll carry the lot, along with a bunch of wheat pennies, in my pocket for about a week.

I'll post some pictures when they're done.

Nobody wants doctored coins, but there's nothing here that's worth anything more than bullion. There's value to knowing how to restore abused coins to a more natural appearance. Aside from the air eraser, I'm just subjecting the coins to what lots of coins have been subjected to. The sulphur content in the soil here will cause the coins to tone relatively quickly. Carrying them and having them abrading one another naturally for awhile, will restore a natural appearance to them.

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08/09/2012 9:54 pm
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 Posted 08/10/2012  11:42 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Air erasers, now I've heard of everything, lol. I googled them and they actually exist, live and learn. I thought Chance was kidding. I even watched them in action on YouTube, harbor freight sells them and made a video. I have a highly polished 28 Peace I would love to use it on.
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 Posted 08/10/2012  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
It will do an adequate job of removing the polished surface. It will look completely bogus at that point...bleach white. You have to be willing to go the other 9 yards to restore it to a natural appearance.

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 Posted 08/10/2012  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Thanks Chance, I was considering putting it in my pocket or something. It looks pretty bad it's so highly polished...

Have you ever tried it on badly corroded cents ?
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08/10/2012 12:06 pm
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 Posted 08/10/2012  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
Badly corroded cents only get worse I'm afraid. I had a bunch of cull indians and just put them in a rock tumbler. I use it to clean up metal detector finds, so it's not like I had to go buy one. That is probably the best thing to do with cents that have no particular collector value.

Bottle collectors polish glass that has "sickness" using copper "shot" that they make by cutting wee bits of copper wire that you'd use for electrical wiring. It removes the clouded areas and polishes the glass to the point that it looks new. They have to construct their own tumblers though. It takes a mighty big tumbler to polish a 1 or even 2 qt mason jar. The results they obtain are astounding though.

I have thought about making a half a cup or so of the copper shot to use in the tumbler. That might actually be something to try with a polished silver coin. Don't use the "shot" when it's brand new and really sharp on that 28 Peace dollar though. However, once the razor edges have been lost to abrasion ... it may work very well. You'd want to check the coin every 15 minutes or so in order to make sure you don't go too far.

Next time I end up with something highly polished ... I may give that a go, strictly in the name of education.

Chance
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08/10/2012 9:12 pm
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 Posted 08/10/2012  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Same Co. that makes nic a date ?
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 Posted 08/11/2012  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Yes.
Here is the deluxe kit:

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