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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This coin should be shot into space so that someone out there can find it and look into our faces!
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United States
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Quote: but after this coin I've been told that we have to save up for house-siding and a backyard deck (so sadly, this may be one of my last frivalous and awesome coin-purchases!!) Yeah, I'll believe that when I see it. I remember a guy who couldn't spend any more on coins cause he was saving for his vacation in Vancouver. Hmmmm, I just can't remember his name.... Jerry, Nice coin for sure. I don't know what you paid and it's none of my business, but I think I would pay a pretty penny for this coin. Both of these latest coins "rock" as you say. I love that Rose reverse.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I keep coming back to this coin type--and hope to add one to my collection. Your particular coin is very interesting because the style of Helios is a bit different than on most I've seen. The earlier coins I've found have wilder hair and outlined eyes, such as below. Perhaps an earlier date than most explains the stylistic differences and the higher weight; most hemidrachms seem to weigh between 1.1-1.5gr. Congrats on this find--it's in really nice shape!  Compare to this coin:  CARIA, Rhodes. 408/7-390 BC. AR Hemidrachm (1.63 gm).
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Hi DVC => wow, I'm surprised that you didn't attach your Deniro clip!!  Yah, I talked to "my guy" and he guarentees that this coin is legit, but he also added that if David Sear says that it is a fake, then he'll take it back on return (that was kinda like the lynch-pin in our bundle-deal) ... so again, I can't lose with this fella => he has my back!! => oh, but I thought that my coin looked very legit when I danced around wildwinds and compared it against the other contestants ... NOTE => I absolutely love this coin and I might actually hang myself if it ends up being a fake (stay tuned) 
Edited by stevex6 08/08/2012 7:50 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: wow, I'm surprised that you didn't attach your Deniro clip!!  That may be one of my favorite movie quotes--but I reserve it only for special occasions. This coin is just distinctive--for the reasons cited. 
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United States
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I see no reason to doubt your coin and hope Sear agrees. It is older that the others shown and a full century older than my didrachm (6.6g) which I have owned for longer than some here have been. It was expensive then and from a good dealer but I'd not afford another now. When you get old and stop working you may have to cut back so buy them now while they are cheap. 
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Hey, nice => wow, thanks for your support, dougsmit ...  NOTE => I will "definitely" keep you guys posted on the final verdict => for as we all know, the fakes are almost more fun than the real show-ponies!! => man, I don't know about you guys, but I'm having an absolute blast collecting these coins!    Thanks for tossing-in your Two Cents every now and then (I appreciate it!!)
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dougsmit => your coin is extremely cool ... extremely  Is it just me, or does your version have a distinctive Americana type look to it! (it has a definite statue of Liberty kinda thingy goin' on, no?) => very cool coin ... CURIOUS => you obviously spent a fair amount of cash on this awesome coin ... ummm, was that money well spent, or are you wishing that you bought the lower-end version for a bit less cash?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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After looking at the coin Doug has posted, I have to admit that I am not all that keen on the style of Steve's coin.
In my opinion, it would be well that it is taking a trip to David Sear. Please let us know what David Sear thinks of it. I would love to have my uneasiness supressed in this case.
I genuinely hope that all goes well, and my cause for concern is baseless.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is my Didrachm (6.64g) BC 387-304 I hoped I could add something. All I have to add is this coin. I got a while back from "my guy". 
Edited by Ancientnoob 08/08/2012 10:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5155 Posts |
I love the Arachic face of Helios on yours Steve, thats a great buy and never seen one like that.
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmmm?
Hi DVC ...
=> hey, I was a bit curious why you were quoting weights for "legit" hemidrachms, yet you ended-up posting a photo of a hemidrachm that fell outside of your comfort-zone? (ummm, a coin that fell very close to being within my coin's comfort weight) ... anyway ...
Plus, by the way => the other two photos that were posted by dougsmit & Ancientnoob were of "didrachms" not hemi-drachms ... my lil' dude is a finesse coin, not a brute!!
=> Apples versus Zucchinis
Regardless => I would bet my entire collection that my cute lil' Rosebud gets the gold medal verdict from David Sear!
Oh, and I will gladly take all side-bets!!
Edited by stevex6 08/08/2012 11:48 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I was a bit curious why you were quoting weights for "legit" hemidrachms, yet you ended-up posting a photo of a hemidrachm that fell outside of your comfort-zone? Steve--regarding weight, I just quoted the range for most Rhodes hemidrachms I saw for sale and on acsearch. I don't have a "comfort zone" on these coins--which is why I looked for an earlier example.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1549 Posts |
It is very much a matter of whether we like the Archaic style or the full Classical treatment. My coin shows the later period which was very much appreciated in the 19th century and would have had influence on the Statue of Liberty. Archaic became more appreciated in the later 20th century. Workmanship was more careful later as well. The OP coin is very nice for what it is (I hope Sear agrees)and even has the clear city name PO rather than a magistrate name often seen above the rose. My two hemidrachms are more often what you see. The earlier (4th century) one is crude with less clear legend while the later one (2nd century?) has the magistrate name in tiny letters above. Specialists would probably be able to date it more closely from that but I don't have that reference. I'll be interested in seeing where Sear dates the OP. This is like the Athenian owls that were issued over such a long period that the early and the late hardly look like each other. I suspect that the head on my didrachm looks a lot like the head on the famous Colossus of Rhodes but we have no real way of knowing that. If you don't know of the statue and its link to the Statue of Liberty, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes Did you know?: Early collectors with a flair for the mystic attributed these coins to a later time and thought the radiate head was Christ. This was a clear case of seeing what you want to see and probably was realized as ridiculous by more informed collectors but I suspect it sold coins to more than a few pious noblemen a few hundred years ago.  
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dougsmit => thanks for your positive coin comments and thanks for the great info (always interesting)  
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