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 Posted 08/16/2012  07:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steelheadwill to your friends list
ExoGuy,
Just wanted to clarify the last pic is
an example showing an earlier state of the die crack.
surely not my coin...
A Silver KS Conder seems an exceedingly rare catch !!
Judd1552, that would be the best confirmation.
I have a contact who is cataloging period CFTs,
He has a Mass Spectrometer, and provides this service
at a very reasonable price, $35 for up to 10 reports
(if memory serves).
HistoryFan, I'll put you in touch if you choose this route.
Best wishes all, Herbie

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08/16/2012 07:03 am
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 Posted 08/16/2012  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Historyfan to your friends list
Will keep all your suggestions in mind, as I continue waiti Thanksng for this coin to be in my possession. Thanks, Keith
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 Posted 08/16/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Historyfan to your friends list
Oops, sorry for the typo's
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 Posted 08/18/2012  03:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Historyfan to your friends list
Received the coin in question earlier today. Turns out that after taking out this coin and realized immediately that the feel was wrong. I dropped it on a hard table, it 'clunked' rather than 'pinged'. It did turn out to be lead. I was able to bend it quite easily, nicked the edge slightly with my fingernail, and was able to write with it like a pencil. It measures 26mm across and weighed in at 4.6g, too much for an authentic one. Yes, it left me very disappointed, however after contacting the seller, she felt bad, telling me she knew very little about coins and promptly issued me a refund. I am sending the coin back to her in the morning. Guess I lucked out on this one.
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 Posted 08/18/2012  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Sorry to hear about that. But at least it all worked out in the end and the seller made it right
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 Posted 08/18/2012  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steelheadwill to your friends list
I had hoped for better news..
Seller deserves great feedback on this Trans
for the refund.
Thanks for sharing your story !!
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08/18/2012 03:59 am
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 Posted 08/18/2012  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
So some free education in what lead reproductions look like! What was the brown stuff on it?
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 Posted 08/18/2012  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Historyfan to your friends list
Looks like an old reproduction to me. I believe it was coated with some type of lacquer or something. If I work it enough with my fingernail in the area of the silver colored section just where it starts to turn dark, I can actually wear it down to the base metal. I didn't want to do anything more to it. I wanted to keep it pretty much the same, as I received it. I did send it back just moments ago. This one was quite the educational experience I must have to say.
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 Posted 08/18/2012  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Glad to see that this will be resolved to your satisfaction. To my experience, the "rare coin lottery" far out distances the state lottery. Better luck next time!
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 Posted 08/18/2012  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
Now that it's been retuned (in its original state), lets keep an eye out to see if it shows up again in a new listing as an "estate sale" find.
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 Posted 08/18/2012  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Historyfan to your friends list
Looks like an old reproduction to me. I believe it was coated with some type of lacquer or something. If I work it enough with my fingernail in the area of the silver colored section just where it starts to turn dark, I can actually wear it down to the base metal. I didn't want to do anything more to it. I wanted to keep it pretty much the same, as I received it. I did send it back just moments ago. This one was quite the educational experience I must have to say.
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 Posted 08/18/2012  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list
Here are images of a Noe 29 that I handled earlier this year. Aside from specific die markers, these are typically known to have grain weights within a specific range and tolerance that can be verified quickly.

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 Posted 08/18/2012  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Historyfan, I'm glad you returned it.
Very nice Noe 29. Did you purchase it?
I still need to get one of these...someday :)
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 Posted 08/18/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list
I owned the Noe 29 briefly. It was passed on to a notable dealer in Colonial issues. It graded VF-30 at PCGS after I sold it.
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 Posted 08/19/2012  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Historyfan to your friends list
My quest is to continue looking for that Oak, Willow, or Pine shilling. I'm also looking to get a VF Newbie St. Patty farthing. With those in my posession will just about complete my Colonial collection. Talk about leaving likely the most desired (IMHO) coins for last!
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