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The Most Certified Coin In The History Of The World

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 Posted 08/13/2012  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Wow, very interesting coin (I love it) ...

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 Posted 08/13/2012  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Anyone got any counterstamp info?
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 Posted 08/13/2012  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list

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Countermarked Coin is a coin marked after being minted and while it is in circulation. Marking can mean that the coin is fit for circulation or has been revalued. The latter is the case for countries that experience rapid changes in inflation and need to quickly change currency valuations.


Here is a link to a few countermarks (I merely skimmed it quickly, but it may tell you something useful?) ...

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca...pos=0&sold=1
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 Posted 08/13/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
@ Steve- Ah yes, I have seen this, I was wondering if anyone can tell me about where my counter stamps come from and when they where added to the coin. I might be grasping at straws. I remember asking about counter marks a few times back on FORVM and got little response...along with some other posts of numismatic interest, Alas I have tried again. I really appreciate you taking the time to look. What I really need is a book on ancient Greek counter stamps. I have this creeping feeling that one does not exist. I would love to see like a nice list with pictures and a brief description of each one. On the other hand I would also like to know if someone can recognize any of the ones on this Attic Standard. Again Thanks guys.


And if you guy haven't noticed I have enough coins I feel I don't know enough about to continue to produce fresh research topics for quite sometime.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list


Nice coin, with plenty of history. I have collected Modern coins all my life, for years I saw that coin and wanted that one
I almost bought it at a show I was doing about 5 or 6 yrs ago, the dealer was going to give it to me for $300, Wow that's a lot of money, well that same coin now probably $900 to 1000, snoz you lose...
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 Posted 08/13/2012  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I figure I would get them while I am young and when I have been collecting for 40 years I would be filthy rich. On the other hand it is more likely that I will become so attached to my ancient tetradrachms that I would have to build a money bin and go diving in it like Scrooge McDuck.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
... is that poor coin in a slab?

Man, that's like keeping a proud ol' grizzly in a cage!!

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08/13/2012 12:25 pm
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 Posted 08/13/2012  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
......Lets not talk about the slab...I have regrets in my life.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
HELP! I need sources for counter marks on "Greek Coins"
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 Posted 08/21/2012  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Sorry A-noob, but that link that I posted regarding countermarks (see above) is all I got ...

... ummm, I wonder if a trip to David Sear would help, or if he'd merely mention that your coin had a few countermarks?

Good luck
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 Posted 08/21/2012  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
If countermarks belonged to individual bankers/moneychangers, there is no real expectation that you will ever find out anything about them. I suspect that this coin received those marks in a region where it was just silver and being an owl was not considered enough to certify value. It would be nice to know where but I would not bet anyone knows.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
As I feared, no such source commonly exists.

The I purpose we attempt to make our own source. Maybe we photograph our coins with counter marks and money changer stamps as best we can. Then attempt single out the stamp and attempt to make a corpus, unidentified or not. Almost like a missing kids poster (Stevex6 selling kids for coins). There for the people who contribute might find a similar mark on another coin, or a specific style of mark, on a series of coins. It is conceivable that a least a geographic area could be determined. We have a relative start date from which the coin its on was made. I know the marks be from long after the coin was made. How cool would it be to work on such a project. I know it would take years but I think we could see many differnt pictures of just countermarks in a few minutes. :-) We live for this stuff right guys whos with me? Ok Ok its just an idea worthy of mention.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Maybe Bing has some spare-time?

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 Posted 08/23/2012  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Thanks "Batman" for the sources. They are the best so far.
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