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Bedrock of the Community
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A man after my own heart with this post. There are some slight differences with the design but the mint definitely got caught with the hand in the cookie jar on this one.
Great coin none the less, but who ever did the design must have been in a lazy mood that week. The Ryan express is as good a pitcher as any to use for it though, especially at that time
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Moderator
 United States
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Appreciate your continued insights into these coins commems ...
Agreed that the Fleer card and the eventual USA mint commemorative bear some significance resemblance.
Thanks for another great post ... your knowledge sharing of the entire series is of tremendous benefit for all of us.
David
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Circle-change" in the photo on the card...  They even copied the folds of the stirrups. I haven't filled the hole in my 7070 for this coin yet. But I do think we may have a winner now!  Thanks for this post commems.. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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After looking at the two a littler closer, it literally looks like they just traced the card. The folds in the uniform both the jersey and the pants are the exact same, even got the dark spot on the left thigh. All they changed was the face which I guess they thought was enough of a change
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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On this one, the Mint appears to have been "guilty" of not doing enough vetting of the artwork they were provided by the independent artist who entered and won the design competition. (See OP.) In hindsight, the Mint probably should have requested copies of the artist's source material and verified that the design was truly a composite of multiple pitchers as the artist claimed. However, if they did, in fact, receive source materials from the artist and did not notice/realize the similarity to the Ryan card -- it might have simply been a case of there being a few Nolan Ryan fans in the Mint's design/engraving department!  Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
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it might have simply been a case of there being a few Nolan Ryan fans in the Mint's design/engraving department! I can't argue with this...^^^^ 5714 strike-outs, 7 "no-no's", 4 decades in the game. The way I see it, Cy Young is probably the only person that has the right to complain about this coin imho. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Nice a potential baseball debate I like it.
The real travesty is that he wasn't featured in that beautiful old astros uniform on the coin
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"Circle-change" in the photo on the card... Good catch! It is not the same pitch, so the coin image cannot be a copy of the card.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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I have this coin and love it. Now knowing the history... It is even better. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the back ground on this coin.
I always thought it was modeled after Nolan Ryne.
Nice modern commem and one I own in the 2 coin set.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would argue that the only controversy with this coin is that the artist essentially "traced" a photograph that was current and readily accessible to the public. Using living models as being emblematic of something else (like Liberty, or in this case a baseball player) is nothing new. Not to mention that living people have appeared on coins (Carter Glass immediately comes to mind, but he's not alone). As Nolan Ryan did not pitch in the 1992 Olympics, I give the coin a pass from a legal standpoint- but as far as the artist lazily cribbing someone else's work? Guilty.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It would have been a bigger giveaway if they had used Jim Abbot from the 1988 games.
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Bedrock of the Community
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What would give it away the fact he only had one hand Legally they probably did change just enough to get away with it changing the hat and the face a bit they could claim they just used the mechanics as a reference for accuracy. I dont really mind it personally as I think the coin looks great. But as a baseball fan the first time I saw it before I had really gotten into coins I thought it was a Nolan Ryan Commemorative dollar. The interesting part to me is why they picked Ryan. The artist must have been a fan. If they wanted picture perfect mechanics Greg Maddux would have been the obvious choice |
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Greg Maddux the obvious choice? Wow I am impressed. You do know your baseball. I like it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Madduxs mechanics were text book. Guys head moved less than 1/10th of an inch start to finish during his motion which is one of the things he credits for the control he had. Ill never shut up if this thread turns into baseball talk lol
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