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What Do You Think About This 1894 5c MS-65 PCGS

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 Posted 09/12/2012  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kasey to your friends list
they get some from both sides sell/buy....
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 Posted 09/12/2012  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
It does look like the 4 was re punched. Is it something that would increase its value? Who knows. Are there Liberty head nickel collectors who are as fanatical about die varieties of this series as there are of some others who would pay a premium for this?

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 Posted 09/12/2012  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbart to your friends list
Do you think the coin is worth the money?

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 Posted 09/12/2012  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
You have to ask yourself if you believe that PCGS got this one right and it's a true MS65. The value at MS64 is quite a drop.
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 Posted 09/12/2012  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albertharris to your friends list
I'd say this is a 65 coin, even without full stars; it's a great strike both OB and RV for a Lib Nickel. Would be a 66 except not all full stars and marks. Price is a little high in today's market.
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 Posted 09/13/2012  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbart to your friends list
I appreciate all your help, the auction ends on Sunday and I haven't decide to bid on the coin as of now or just what for another one to come up for bid. I still would like to have more replies back on your thoughts if possible. I know the price is a bit higher...but is it worth it?
I did check the price list at PCGS


Thanks again for all your help,

bobbart

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 Posted 09/13/2012  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Not quite MS65 for me. There are a couple of tiny marks on the obverse.
MS64.
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 Posted 09/14/2012  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbart to your friends list
I,m not going to bid on the coin becuase I,m not sure if it is a MS64 OR MS65 ...PGCS 0s stating it,s a MS65.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.
I will just wait for another one to come along


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 Posted 09/14/2012  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Smart move; I can't decide if it's 65 or not, either. Now, the interesting part - the only overdate I can find for this year is a Proof-only strike....
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 Posted 09/14/2012  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
SsuperDdave: Is it possible that the proof coins were made AFTER the production for the business strikes were completed?

That happened with the 1959 Australian proof florin. The master die for the business strikes had a flaw, which was reproduced for the entire business strike issue, and the master die had to be modified to remove the flaw so that a proof die could be made from it. 1,506 florins were struck, so presumably only one pair of dies were needed for the proof florin of that year.

Perhaps in the case of 1894 proof only nickel, a replacement die had to be modified.
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 Posted 09/14/2012  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list
Decent coin that fully justifies the 65 grade. MS64 Libnics generally don't exhibit such creamy luster, not after 120 years for a coin that's 75% copper, the "whiteness" of the coin mightn't be original. However, eye appeal-wise, it's at the upper end of the grade, even with the hits. This was an atrociously produced set from start to finish, and the early years 1887-1896 are quite difficult to find looking like this in 65/66. I've seen 66 LibNics that weren't as nice as this one. Totally worth the price and deserving of a CAC sticker, IMO. If you miss this one, might be awhile before another comes along. The '94 is difficult in any MS grade above 62.
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 Posted 09/14/2012  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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SsuperDdave: Is it possible that the proof coins were made AFTER the production for the business strikes were completed?


Conceivable, but entirely unlikely. Typical US practice is to always strike the Proofs first, even at the cost of modifying the Master Die before doing so. It should be noted that this decade was possibly the glory days of US Proofs; some of the finest strikes of any non-Modern coin came from the 1890's.

I do not have access to an authoritative compilation of 1894 varieties. Furthermore, I note that the potential overdate on the coin linked here is in a slightly different location than that on the known Breen-2556. It may be a known overdate.

What it is, though, is a beautiful strike in a new PCGS slab, and they know full well they more than doubled the value by calling it 65 instead of 64. And note, Business Strikes at that level are worth more than Proofs in the equivalent grade for this date. This is probably not the 65 I'd buy if I wanted one, but I hesitate to call it "overgraded."
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 Posted 09/14/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I cannot call it overgraded, I believe it to be a 65 from °what I can see°.
It's a nice coin and yes, the biz strike is valued higher.
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 Posted 09/15/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbart to your friends list
I see a lot of replies back...now I,m confused if I should buy it or now. I have to tomorrow night to decide.
I'm not a grader, so I can't tell this coin from a MS64 or a MS65

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 Posted 09/15/2012  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Looks like a nice 65 to me with a recut date. Great coin and not an easy one to find.
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