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Yea I can try taking some pictures tonight or tomorrow. I'll have to barrow a camera, but I'm sure someone around here has a nice Nikon or something.
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blue sheet price EF-40 = $120 AU-50 =$200
red sheet price EF-40 = $36 AU-50 = $85 Trout are you sure they arn't the prices of 1916 Shillings? You really have gone to the dark side with certified coins  . From my understanding of the red sheet it gives a value that you would expect to receive if you sold a coin to a dealer. In other words the minimum price you can expect for a coin. I dont think you will win many auctions if you stick to red sheet values. |
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Trout are you sure they arn't the prices of 1916 Shillings?
You really have gone to the dark side with certified coins .
From my understanding of the red sheet it gives a value that you would expect to receive if you sold a coin to a dealer. In other words the minimum price you can expect for a coin. I dont think you will win many auctions if you stick to red sheet values.
You ar dead right  Blue sheet EF-40 $120 AU-50 $200 Red Sheet EF-40 $70 AU-50 $115. I buggered up on the red sheet  |
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What are they for AU-55 trout? That is closer to an Aussie EF isn't it.
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 1916 FLORIN Redsheet for a AU55 $195 Bluesheet $350 redsheet for a AU58 $340 Bluesheet $600 Greensheet (raw coins) ef $320 and aunc $575 I did see a 1916 au53 sell the other day for $500 ,on ebayit's hard to find a nice 1916 florin in mid grades . yep very handy red,blue, green sheet , great job walter |
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What are they for AU-55 trout? That is closer to an Aussie EF isn't it. No AU-55 IS almost uncirculated not Extra fine, AU- 50 to my understanding is the top end of extra fine or EF+ |
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AC as much as I would love to share the info on these sheets I really cannot do it. The information is owned by Walter and I pay for the privilege of accessing it , I doubt very much that he would appreciate me giving it out for free. The information I gave was a one off and I hope I haven't trod on anyone's toes doing it |
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I was going by this http://www.pcgseurope.com/StaticCon...parison?l=enI now realise that is comparison for english grading standards which I have heard are more strict than ours. I still think a 1916 Florin in EF is worth $250-300 anyday. If its a nice EF then I dont think $400 is too bad. I tend to go with 50-70% of maccas prices when deciding on a fair price for a coin. High grade examples seem to be closer to catalogue still. |
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Quote:1916 FLORIN Redsheet for a AU55 $195 Bluesheet $350 redsheet for a AU58 $340 Bluesheet $600 Greensheet (raw coins) ef $320 and aunc $575 I did see a 1916 au53 sell the other day for $500 ,on ebayit's hard to find a nice 1916 florin in mid grades . yep very handy red,blue, green sheet , great job walter Thanks, if the AU53 was only recent it probably hasn't been updated into the Blue Sheet yet. The last AU graded sale on record is an AU58 on ebay going for $399. |
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No AU-55 IS almost uncirculated not Extra fine, AU- 50 to my understanding is the top end of extra fine or EF+
I'm afraid not trout. Here is a comparison of Sheldon Grading to ANDA grading from Walters own website. http://www.numismatics.com.au/Blog/...rading_Guidescroll down a bit and you will see that AU-55 is the equivalent of aEF. |
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Quote:I'm afraid not trout. Here is a comparison of Sheldon Grading to ANDA grading from Walters own website. http://www.numismatics.com.au/Blog/..rading_Guidescroll down a bit and you will see that AU-55 is the equivalent of aEF. I have to politely disagree, a coin with a score of 60 is uncirculated ergo a coin with a score of 55 or 58 has to be AU and AU+ respectively. That would make the AU-50 the top grade for an extra fine coin , as far as my understanding of the cross reference of the grades goes  By your reasoning a AU58 is only EF. Are you trying to say a MS-60 is AU and a ms-63 is AU+ Edited by trout1105
09/15/2012 02:50 am
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From what I have seen graded as AU-50 and 55 theres no way its an Aussie aUNC. The AU-55 I got from walters auction the other day is a nice EF in my mind and the AU-58 is aUNC. I think what walter has put together is pretty much on the money.
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I wouldn't bother trying to compare the two standards, my chart is just a guide, EF Sydney mint sovereigns rarely grade above AU50 but EF florins often make AU58. ANDA standards aren't consistently applied between each series because they measure detail whereas PCGS measures wear.
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I wouldn't bother trying to compare the two standards, my chart is just a guide, EF Sydney mint sovereigns rarely grade above AU50 but EF florins often make AU58. ANDA standards aren't consistently applied between each series because they measure detail whereas PCGS measures wear.
This ANDA - Sheldon thing is doing my head in  . I am more than happy to grade my coins using the ANDA system of grading ( I'm old school) and I have only been looking at the Sheldon system because of the proliferation of slabbed coins in the marketplace. It took me years to be able to grade "Old School" and I am doing my best to be able to cross grade coins so that I know what I am buying. Obviously I have a long way to go yet, So bugger buying "Graded/Slabbed" coins from now on. I think I will just stick to what I know and buy them raw  |
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This ANDA - Sheldon thing is doing my head in You're not alone on that, that's why I suggest learning to grade as PCGS does rather than trying to grade as ANDA does then converting the grade - It's very useful to learn PCGS' grading especially when purchasing on-line. Because of their consistency, you can get a pretty good estimation on what to expect from the grade alone in all factors other than colour (for copper), eye appeal and strike, all of which are fairly easy to work out from a photo. On the other hand when you buy an ANDA graded coin on-line you have no idea of the condition of the surface of the coin and you need a very specific style of photo to be able to work it out from the photo (95% of photos on-line focus on making the coin look good rather than showing the details you need to assess the surface). |
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