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They really didnt seem to survive circulation very well. True that. If only they would tone into a nice brown like the Lincoln Cent. No, these things turn into something else.  Quote:
I got most of mine from chopped up mint sets that I was using ... Good call!  I do not regularly buy mints sets, but I do get the proof sets (hence my proof only decision). Quote:After I did the State Quarters I realized I had a pile of dollars and no clue which ones were which anymore Ouch!  |
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Quote:update, I'm disappointed, I really liked the wolf/turkey/turtle design. http://news.coinupdate.com/cfa-reco...omment-12035 I missed this earlier, but they literally picked the worst design. Quote:
If only they would tone into a nice brown like the Lincoln Cent I really like the brown lincolns. Quote:
I do not regularly buy mints sets, but I do get the proof sets (hence my proof only decision). I would have done the same in that situation. I usually dont put proofs in albums though, I mess half of them up trying to get them in and then it drives me crazy seeing the mark  |
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PA could have its own series just from images in Philly alone. Which may have been the problems. So many to pick from they couldnt decide etc. I don't mind the PA design, but it could have been a lot better. Basebal, I'm going to say this here and then suggest we split the thread if we want to talk Statie design, before the mods have to shut us down for meandering down the bunny trail yet again--I think with a lot of states the problem was a misguided desire to "educate" that quickly became an excuse for laziness. PA, for example--I looked it up and found out that chick who looks like the Statue of Liberty is in fact the statue of the Commonwealth. I lived in PA my whole life from birth to 22 and never heard of this thing. I don't see why none of our famous heroes or landmarks were represented, except that it would have been more effort--to have to research the design of a brig instead of a schooner, for example. |
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CanadaPenny, you beat me to the update by a good 9 hours. Dang I'm getting slow. But I agree with you that the CFA did choose the worst design in my opinion. And Nina, Quote:
the state that WON the War of 1812 I think the Canadians disagree with you on that one... and based on the number of coins on the subject they're issuing vs. the two (Star Spangled Banner Commemoratives) we're issuing, I don't think the US is disagreeing very hard. |
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Nina it seems like theyre trying to just pick symbols for the whole state. Personally for PA I would have went with the Continental Congress but thats me.
It seems in general though that they have some serious history nerds (and I say that as a history buff myself) picking the designs since they come up with some real obscure things that 98 percent of people look at and say what is that. Just look at the new treaty design for the dollar. Worst design possible this time around and I'm sure the symbols have some meaning, but outside of their decision room I'm sure very few people have even the first clue as to what it means. It was even the worst of the treaty designs and most people will just think they wrote the treaty name on the back and called it a day.
Honestly who ever is picking some of these designs needs to be replaced. I'm not sure how theyre picking them but out of all the designs they showed possible for this new dollar I dont understand how they could have concluded this was the best one
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TJ, I won't dispute that Canada was the driving arm behind the final victory (you guys get even more shafted in history classes than the rest of the world, and my knowledge of the Canadian part of the war is patchy at best--but yeah, I know you guys were there and also heavy hitters). However, it was the Battle of Lake Erie that was the pivot point for the war, and that was fought by Pennsylvanians. In terms of overall firepower it wasn't such of a much, but in terms of morale it was exactly what was needed, at precisely the right moment.
And basebal: I would have gone with a dual image to represent what I see as "the two Pennsylvanias" (western and eastern--the culture between the two is almost TOTALLY different). Given the coin to design over, I would put the Brig Niagara, the Liberty Bell, and a selection of maple trees ("Penn sylvania" = Penn's Woods) on the reverse. This would represent the western and eastern portions of the state, plus what brings us together.
I think the problem with the dollar coins isn't just a matter of too much research; it's that some things just don't look right on a coin. For example, if you want to show a sacred NA weaving pattern, don't just show us a cable of thread. Do a mock-up of a basket, perhaps with another element of the coin leaning against it, or a serape thrown over a stool--something that gives it context. This has none.
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I 100% agree they just so far arent really picking things that translate well onto a coin, the size and color of the coin arent doing them any favors either with what theyre choosing. That said though theyre also shooting themselves in the foot not picking the best designs. I'm guessing the image for the coming year has some significance, what it is I dont have the slightest clue. They have did have a couple decent treaty mock ups and of course didnt chose any of them.
Im not sure if they do it or not, but if they dont make a prototype coin before choosing a design and just go of the mock drawings alone maybe its time they start making one before coming to a final decision. Whatever the reason theres been some questionable design decisions lately and I have a feeling the same will happen with the 5 star generals commemorative coming up after seeing the proposed designs not to long ago.
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Hate to be a bummer, but I dont really like any of these designs. I'm hoping every year that they will design one that will force me to collect these
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I usually dont put proofs in albums though, I mess half of them up trying to get them in and then it drives me crazy seeing the mark One day I woke up and decided to bust apart all of my proof sets so I could move the coins to the Dansco albums. The alternative was going out and buying all of those coins individually. The holes were there, so I had to fill them. But I understand your concern because the older I get, the more nervous I am when adding proof coins to my albums. Quote:
Basebal, I'm going to say this here and then suggest we split the thread if we want to talk Statie design, before the mods have to shut us down for meandering down the bunny trail yet again-- This is really my opinion and not necessarily CCF policy, but I am fine with this meandering as long as it still relates to numismatics.  |
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I agree with the turkey, wolf and turtle design being my favorite. It is not perfect but it is the one that got my attention and I was drawn to it (but I am an animal lover too so that helps). Some of the others with the treaty papers (like NA-R-05) would be ok. I thought the one they have as a recommendation (#9) was terribly boring. I really liked last years NA dollar design so hopefully they follow it up with another nice one.
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So have they made a final decision yet what the design will be? The CCAC picked one and the CFA picked a different one. Has the Treasury Sec made his decision yet? And did he pick one of those two or a different design? (The two committees can only make recommendations, it is the Sec Treas who actually makes the final decision and he does not have to follow their recommendations.)
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not really a fan of the 2013 theme in general. Treaties are more about the relationship between NAs and European settlers; not sure how that honors NA contributions.
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So, after messing up the Five-Star Generals choices, they get one right. I wish it was the other way around  |
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