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it seems, as in europe the TGP is not as usual as in the us.
this different grading companies are mostly important for us-collectors?
it seldom to find pcgs,ngc,anacs graded and capsueled coins here.
all other aspects are right. but this also depends on what you are collecting.
okay, also the point:
* Are there any unassisted naked-eye visible defects?
is not so important to me. this shohs me, that a coin was in circulation.
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10/01/2012 9:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I do the following: Never, ever buy from ebayNever, ever buy from on line dealers. Only buy coins from coin shows. Only buy from dealers I've known for many, many years at coin shows. I make a list of coins I need. Another list of coins I want. Another list of coins I'd like to have. I then go to a coin show and leave those lists at home. I then buy anything I see that I like and can afford. |
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it seems, as in europe the TGP is not as usual as in the us.
this different grading companies are mostly important for us-collectors?
it seldom to find pcgs,ngc,anacs graded and capsueled coins here.
all other aspects are right. but this also depends on what you are collecting. They started in the US so it has built and spread here the fastest. They are expanding internationally with the coins they grade at least and I do think theres plans for offices to open over seas if they havent yet. They do travel and have grading events from time to time. In a few years or so you might start seeing them more but Id suspect it wont be huge until they get some over seas offices since its not really worth it cost wise to send a coin from Europe to California and pay for return shipping unless its a really valuable one |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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it seems, as in europe the TGP is not as usual as in the us.
this different grading companies are mostly important for us-collectors? I would think there are more US coins counterfeited than others. Or possibly coin collectors in other countries are not as aware of how many of their coins may be faked. As more and more counterfeited coins are found in other countries, TPGS's will start to become the norm everywhere. As with anything, it would only take one new TPGS to start in Europe or Asia, and POOF, many more will pop up. |
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Quote:I would think there are more US coins counterfeited than others. Or possibly coin collectors in other countries are not as aware of how many of their coins may be faked. As more and more counterfeited coins are found in other countries, TPGS's will start to become the norm everywhere. As with anything, it would only take one new TPGS to start in Europe or Asia, and POOF, many more will pop up.  I didnt really think about it but US coins probably are the most faked overall |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My criteria list
Do I need it?
Is it what it is supposed to be?
Can I afford it?
How likely am I to be able to find a better one and/or a better deal within a reasonable amount of time? (Reasonable amount of time = 5 to 10 years)
If I need it, it is what it is supposed to be, I can afford it and if I am not likely to find another one anytime soon, I buy it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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with the most of the aforementioned. ( ebay has been my main source, ebay bucks come out tomorrow!  ) Do I need it? No, I can live without it. Do I want it? YES! Is it authentic? TPG all the way! Is it problem free? Remains to be seen. I have been burned too many times at coin shows buying what I thought was a problem free coin, only to be cleaned, altered surfaces, etc... I only have myself to blame on that. This is the main reason I go with TOP III TPG'ers. Can I afford it? In time...yes. Compare prices/availability before putting my money down. Most of all it's about having fun! Edited by oih82w8
10/02/2012 12:51 pm
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Valued Member
Austria
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@just carl:
i think here in europe we have big problems with counterfeited coins.
alone the range of counterfeit german talers is huge.
saxon talers are very interesting for counterfeiters and also all other crowns and talers.
they were mostly produced in china.
then the roman and all other ancient coins.
they were mostly produced in the south-eastern part of europe (former yugoslavia, romania and bulgaria)
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Bedrock of the Community
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they were mostly produced in china. Sadly thats a common theme for everywhere now |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have to admit that others here are giving you their best advice to help you out in your pursuit for monetary gain...
I, on the other hand as a older CCF member, conclude after reading your thread, is that you want others to do your own homework...
I have collected on and off for over fifty years in a hobby that's more about enjoyment then it is about taking a loss when you sell...
After reading your first paragraph, I believe your not into Numismatics for the love of the hobby, but more or less trying to make the best investment for a future return, and if this is true you would most likely do better on a CPA Forum for future investments...
Many here do it for the love of the hobby, and the very serious ones expand their knowledge to Die Varieties that I'm sure they didn't consider when they first started collecting...
When you comment that "I DON'T PURCHASE ITEMS OUT OF PURE EMOTION" (you don't even mention coins), you really don't understand how the hobby works...
I'm sure others will critique my reply, but the coins & currency I have made out of PURE EMOTION, are some of the best purchases I have made, and since I don't plan on selling anything, I could care less what they sell for after I'm no longer around...
While I may have questions for other forum members to help me out, I would NEVER ask anyone what I should purchase, and when my interests change to another part of Numismatics, I'm old school and purchase the necessary books, etc..
I will end this by saying that if you want others to help you decide on what to purchase, your not going to have the enjoyment others here have...
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Valued Member
United States
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The above thread says it all "Don't buy out of emotion". Know what you want and put them down on a list to be able to be seen when surfing, bidding, etc. I am a collector at that age 72, whose needs have turned from what I like or want =to= obtaining what would the most valuable to the person who will inherit my collection. Another item is validity of the coins. Anything over $50 gets bought slabbed only. To much counterfeit around. My thoughts    edgman |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The above thread says it all "Don't buy out of emotion". Know what you want and put them down on a list to be able to be seen when surfing, bidding, etc. I am a collector at that age 72, whose needs have turned from what I like or want =to= obtaining what would the most valuable to the person who will inherit my collection. Another item is validity of the coins. Anything over $50 gets bought slabbed only. To much counterfeit around And I'm a bit older than you and I've found with so little time possibly left, blow money on whatever you like, want, can afford. My family doesn't need my money so why shouldn't I just blow it on anything and everything that I like, want, can afford. As to who inherits this mess, I really don't care. Let them inherit what I liked, not what they want. If my coins are all fakes, that will be someone else's problems. Spending money to me is fun as with coin collecting. I buy what I like, want, need, enjoy, etc. Time is to short. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@ Just carl, I agree totally, and while my numismatic collection is for my granddaughters college education (when the time comes), all I can do is leave a value of what she should sell the coins for in today's dollars. her choice will be to either keep the collection or sell it for whatever she wants.
As for my comment on purchasing on pure emotion, after I absorbed the shock on what I had paid for certain one-of-a-kind errors, the same coins/currency in hand has given me years of enjoyment, not to mention that now it looks like a bargain price...
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Valued Member
United States
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just carl
Im just the opposite of you. My family does need the money and since my SS check is the biggest part of my income I have to spend it wisely. I keep a list in front of me because I find myself buying duplicates if I dont. I intend to leave them the best I can which is what I like and I dont like fakes.
edgman
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Valued Member
 United States
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Good insights but ultimately, I'm trying to avoid counterfeit coin purchases, focus my collections (it's easy to sprawl a collection), and, if possible, even make a profit.
The profit portion though is not my focus though. It's more of a hope.
I want to collect a set of interesting coins. I like coins based on significant years, images, shape, country, design, and so forth.
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10/03/2012 5:12 pm
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