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2013 8 Dollar Silver 1.5-Oz Polar Bear Coin?

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 Posted 09/21/2013  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list
Sometimes is nice and informative to return to old topics.
here some observation about this coin:

I bought 2 coins from the same source, both of them where clean and perfect, but:

one has been stored in X38 airtite capsule (with perfect closure) in the Lighthouse 6-cells box for quadrums in the top shelf of the cabinet.
the second stored in the RCM capsule for Crystall/Murano Glass coin in the Lighhouse Volterra big wooden case (60 cells) on the bottom shelf of the same cabinet.

And what I see - the rims of the first coin became "fogged-white" and the second - clear as new.

Too many factors, but these the facts.

Yes, the design is poor. Nice to keep as unusual bullion.
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 Posted 09/21/2013  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list
Interesting Silveroid , it makes me wonder what coins are going to discolor and for what reason later on....just by looking at the fit of the lighthouse brand capsules I can see that they are not an airtight fit, they are made with tiny bumps to keep the two halfs together which appears to cause a small air gap. Anyone else notice that?
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 Posted 09/21/2013  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list
Yes, the Lighthouse capsules are good, but I think, they not positioned as "air-tite" (lets say actually no capsule is air-tite). So the Lighthouse capsules easy to open/close, and I assuming that there exists some air flow...

I much more prefer the capsules that Mints using - RCM, Perth, China...or these, which officially called "air-tites".

Need also to say, it depends on the coin too, and the worst durability show unfortunately RCM and Austrian bullion, tiny milkspots observed on the Somalia Elephant coins.
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 Posted 10/01/2013  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevinmm to your friends list
Hi.
First time poster.
I just found this forum while researching a 1.5 Toz Polar Bear coin I saw for sale on Kijiji.

My first thought was, why would a 1.5 Troy ounce of silver coin be minted with a face value of only $8?

Can someone please explain the logic of that?

Aren't the RCM "twenty dollars for $20" coins only 1/4oz silver coins?
Wouldn't all new coins be minted with a face value higher than the intrinsic melt value of the coin?

I am confused.

Kevin from Canada
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 Posted 10/01/2013  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
this 15 oz. coin is a bullion coin like the silver maple leafs with a 5 dollar value, the other coins are nclt with higher and other odd denominations, almost all 1 oz. recent nclt are priced at 99.00 or higher.
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 Posted 10/01/2013  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list
@Kevin:

Those (similar) were my question about NCLT near to 4 years ago:
"Shall I get $20 (1oz) coin for $70 or $10 (1/2oz) for $30"?

Do not look on the denominations of NCLT (not include "20for20" and "100for100"- different story), but buy the coin with the characteristics and theme that you like, and according to your budget.

As explained me one dealer - the denomination on the bullion ($5 for SML) protects buyer in case, if price for silver drops less then $5 per oz (so your coin will still worth the denomination value - here I doubt).
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 Posted 10/03/2013  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list
NCLT is essence has no face value, banks don'y have to take irçt.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan Gale to your friends list
RCM has just released 2013 8 Dollar Silver 1.5oz Polar Bear coin. In case I missed something, is there any difference to the same coin released previously?
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 Posted 11/08/2013  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list

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RCM has just released 2013 8 Dollar Silver 1.5oz Polar Bear coin. In case I missed something, is there any difference to the same coin released previously?


Yes the newly released 1.5oz polar bear is a proof version of the 1.5oz bullion version. Should be a decent coin.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
THe proof 1.5 bear is cool, if I had not bought the bullion one I'd be buying it. I do however have the bullion so I'll take a pass on the proof one.
I was just thinking, I have an F15 box that is empty, I wonder what 15 proof 1.5 polar bears would look like in those square holes, I'll have to see if my bullion one fits. Let me think $124.95 X 15 = $1874.25. I'll have to think about it....nope that's a little rich for me.
cheers
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 Posted 11/08/2013  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list
Face value is symbolic. NCLT coins are sold and bought according to market value, not face value. NCLT have a lot more quality and details than bullion coins.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list

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Let me think $124.95 X 15 = $1874.25. I'll have to think about it....nope that's a little rich for me.
cheers


@Liverpool:
I have some idea for you, expencive though, but creative and nicely displayable:

Fill RCM F15 box with 15 Piedfort coins (but prior this check how it fits):

2013 Proof SML Piedfort
2013 Proof Polar Bear 1.5 oz
2012 / 2013 Australian Koala High Relief (6mm thickness)
2012 / 2013 Australian Kookaburra High Relief (6mm thickness)
2012 / 2013 Australian Kangaroo High Relief (6mm thickness)
2012 / 2013 Zodiak coin High Relief (6mm thickness)
2013 Somalian Elephant High Relief
....and the next issues

Will be great High Relief / Piedfort set
Edited by Silveroid
11/08/2013 1:24 pm
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 Posted 11/08/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
"Fill RCM F15 box with 15 Piedfort coins (but prior this check how it fits):"

I like it, I like it alot.
thanks for the input.
Liverpool
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 Posted 11/09/2013  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list
I just received my polar bear coins. Gold and Silver. The came in a nice wood box, however the C.O.A. isn't in any type of holder. They are usually 'strapped in'. The coins however are beautiful.
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 Posted 11/26/2013  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list
Odds are the proof 1.5 polar bears have arrived in the hands of some collectors, what's the word? Nice? Super nice? Amazing? or Pass?
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