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Are There Any Fake Kennedy 64 Half Dollars?

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 Posted 10/03/2012  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
There are counterfeits of *everything*.

Here is my own basic rubric for checking if a particular coin is fake:

http://fakes.numismetrica.com/ident...ounterfeits/

If it passes all these tests, then it's unlikely.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list
Yeah, i'll have to go with the polished the heck out of ex-proof pocket piece theory. Right size, weight, non-magnetic, no join mark, no copper band, passes the tissue test. But it sure does look weird.

edit - just tried a ping test on a clad one and the 64 has a lower tone
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10/03/2012 09:33 am
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 Posted 10/03/2012  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
It sounds like you did all the tests you could do to verify it was real.

Look at it under magnification for polishing marks.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list
If you blow up the reverse pic of the '64, there looks to be a seam at the bottom edge. I would say a Magician's coin. See if you can't pry it apart. If nothing else, I usually wrap one in a towel, a bang it on a hard surface. They usually come apart that way.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list
No, I can safely say that is a reflection and my woeful lighting combined! Definitely no seam.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Teach to your friends list
Take it to a coin shop and see if they will offer you the amount for a 64 kennedy. If not, ask them why.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list
Thanks for your help, it does look a little odd but all the tests check out so I'm going with real for now. Bar sending it in for melt, little else I can do to prove otherwise.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list
All the fine detail in Kennedy's hair being gone along with obliterated feather detail says "polished" to me. Give me a dremel tool and a polish wheel and I could make one look like that in ten minutes
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 Posted 10/03/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Senex to your friends list
Looks like it was a pocket piece - in addition to being heavily polished.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I agree with what has become the consensus, a heavily polished coin. At least that is how I see it from the photos.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billymac11 to your friends list
polished. whizzed. something like that.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M0nks to your friends list
i concur looks real to me just polished ( the date looks perfect just the way a '64 should look )
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 Posted 10/03/2012  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list

Quote:
I would say a Magician's coin.


Magicians' coins don't tend to ring in my experience.
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 Posted 10/05/2012  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BUncirculated to your friends list
Just out of curiosity, why are you comparing the 64 to a 67?

The 64 should weigh more than the 67 because it has more silver in it, .36169 ounces and weighs 12.5 grams, compared to the 67 which has .1479 ounces of silver and weighs 11.5 grams.
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 Posted 10/05/2012  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list
Just to compare the 'look' and detail

I also mentioned the noob panic about the weight difference in my first post.
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