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Double Struck Lincoln Memorial Cent

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 Posted 10/10/2012  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list
Now I want one.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list
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Put it on ebay for $1,000,000.00 like everyone else does....
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 Posted 10/10/2012  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list
@wert

hahahaha!
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 Posted 10/11/2012  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list
I've got one similar. I always thought Die Clash?
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 Posted 10/11/2012  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
If it was double stuck in the collar, wouldn't the second striking be much stronger? How could it be so faint?

I see the word GOD on the obverse, around 3:00, and it isn't inverted, so it looks double struck, but why so faint.

The other thing that is strange, is that the second strike on the obverse is rotated about 120 degrees clockwise, where as the reverse is rotated about 240 degrees clockwise. On the reverse, you can see TES of states at 8:00, for the second strike.

For a die clash, it is when both dies hit each other, with no planchet in between, so the obverse design would appear on the reverse die and vice versa. And then that gets transferred to the coin, so it isn't a die clash.
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10/11/2012 3:35 pm
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 Posted 10/11/2012  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
The original photos that I took of this coin were 6 mega pixels. By the time I had to reduce them to under 100,000 bytes a lot of the detail was left off. Actually Liberty running down the forehead of Lincoln is quit strong. Also Trust is mostly visible at the bottom of the jacket. On the reverse most of the United State of America is visible from the original strike.

The reverse has a rather large die crack starting from the 9th column running up to what is left of the "o" in of. This same die crack can me seen on the coin starting on the 3rd column running into the 2nd bay for the original strike. Evidently some of these type errors can be struck with two different die pairs, but this one is struck with the same die pair.

It would be interesting to find another regular 1996 cent struck with the same die crack.

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10/11/2012 7:48 pm
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 Posted 10/11/2012  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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If it was double stuck in the collar, wouldn't the second striking be much stronger? How could it be so faint?


The faint strike is the primary strike while the stronger one is the secondary strike.


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The other thing that is strange, is that the second strike on the obverse is rotated about 120 degrees clockwise, where as the reverse is rotated about 240 degrees clockwise.

The second strike on the obverse is rotated ~120 degrees counterclockwise while the reverse is rotated ~120 degrees clockwise. The rotations are in agreement when you consider the coin alignment of the two sides in relation to each other.
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 Posted 10/11/2012  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
Mr Diamond has an interesting and informative article on the web about such coins. Go to google and type in: diamond double struck in collar. It should be the top choice. The article indicates that most of the time very little if any of the original design is usaully left on a double struck coin, if I read the article correctly.

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 Posted 10/11/2012  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Mike is a member here on CCF. You might want to PM him for his input.
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 Posted 10/12/2012  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
Thanks for the link info. Here it is:
http://www.coinworld.com/articles/i...first-strik/

The second strike kind of erases the first strike, so that is why it is so weak and that makes sense now.

That is one impressive coin you have there!
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10/12/2012 11:28 am
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 Posted 10/12/2012  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
As many others have concluded, this is an in-collar double strike with significant rotation of the coin between strikes.
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 Posted 03/07/2018  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list

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As many others have concluded, this is an in-collar double strike with significant rotation of the coin between strikes.


Wow! - I haven't seen these before - nice to learn. Thanks Mike D!
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 Posted 05/18/2018  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'm sorry to bring this old and ancient topic back up, but this's a very nice and incredible find! Congratulations on finding this. Was that Die Crack on the 9th memorial pillar caused by the second strike on impact?
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 Posted 05/18/2018  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
No. The die crack is actually on both strikes. The initial strike it shows near the top of bay two. Both strikes were with the same die pair. Still Lookin
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Oh okay Still Lookin. I understand now. Thank you for the information!
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