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Valued Member
United States
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Some of the details just don't look right, the ear on the 1907 is pretty crudely done, as well as the spaghetti looking hair on the 1877. Even something on the 1916 just doesn't look right, I just cant put my finger on it. I would suspect them all as being fakes.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1411 Posts |
The first two don't look right to me either... no idea why.
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Pillar of the Community
Thailand
1509 Posts |
I have no problem with either the 'spaghetti hair' on the Vicoria or the ear on the Edward VII. I have several of both and they look okay in comparison, the ear does seem to remain prominent even after some wear. But... as sel_69l says they have been very harshly cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would have said - all modern forgeries based on what I see. But as I have said on a few occasions - pictures can be deceptive. There is no substitute for seeing the coins in person.
But were I to see these I would buy them ONLY as Non-silver counterfeits (Modern - NOT contemporary).
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1. The 1907 edward Rupee has poor (cleaned) surfaces so at best this coin is bullion. But look at the lettering - focus on the two R's in Emperor. To my eye they are NOT identical and look just like a re-cut transfer die. Also look at the edge - on both sides I think I can see deformation from the reeds. That is very unlikely to ever occur on a real strike from a collared press. Note the irregularities in the surface between the edge and the dentil arc. Typical of forgeries not real coins. The strike is dead flat no camber at all.
2. The Victoria has similar rim problems and has far poorer detail than on coins I own. It could be to the excessive harsh polishing. But in no event is this coin worth over melt. Also I am bothered by the die damage at the letter D in INDIA and the fine overcuts in the details of the leaves and flowers.
3. The George is the worst of the three with all of the problems of the first two only WORSE.
I vote Chinese Modern and NOT Silver.
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Pillar of the Community
Hong Kong
1270 Posts |
I vote they all real but I can't give you any solid evidence now. Just my subjective opinion, first I don't think they are casted. If they are struck by machine, it add costs to production. I don't think those counterfeiters will do that for such common coins. You can do a ring test to each coin and see they are make of silver or same stuff. English coins are of high standard and less easy to be counterfeit good. You can also give a picture of their edges and compare it with my scans. I trust all my three coins are real! My findings: Same sound by ringe test. 1862(11.55 grams), 1905(11.60 grams), 1917(11.64 grams).   Edge picture: the top is Victoria, bottom is Georg V.  |
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 United States
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Sorry to say, but none of these coins look right to me. They look casted and than over polished.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2180 Posts |
I would have said they are fake too. The portraits of Victoria and George V at least do not look right.
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Pillar of the Community
Hong Kong
1270 Posts |
I always can't take good photos from my DC (Canon IXUS 870 IS), can anybody tell me a better DC to take close-up of coins? Please judge by these two photos and say it is fake or not.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
The 1907 looks far more like a struck coin than the earlier coins. To me the two in fact do not look similar at all.
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New Member
United Kingdom
29 Posts |
Coins look fake to me from these pictures. 2/3 are defo fakes for sure.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2891 Posts |
They don't look right at all. Edwards ear seems not to be as worn as the hair and the obverse lettering looks off? Victoria's hair liiks like a wire brush, and George's entire obverse looks crude. I'd steer well clear of these.
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Pillar of the Community
Thailand
1509 Posts |
Opinion certainly seems to be divided on this one.
Comparing them with the ones I have I'd go for genuine. The ears on Edward are always prominent because of his lack of hair.
My only concern would be the one weight of 11.74 (0.08 above the strike). Maybe that falls within acceptable limits.
And sel is right about the harsh cleaning but if you're happy with that...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
992 Posts |
Hate to revive this old thread, but I see a lot of rupee coins, being kinda sorta hooked on them, and as a consequence see fakes at least once a month. All three coins are fake. The Victoria, look at the braided hair on the face, it should be a 3-dimensional rope of hair, not the flat striata on this coin. The Edward, the ear is far too prominent for a coin as worn as this purports to be. You can see a wrinkle at 3 0'clock where the casting slurry rose, and the rim appears to be ground down to remove excess material. The George V, the reverse has the flat detailing in the lower rose and thistles, true coins have more depth, and the rose petals are scalloped, not a series of flat rings. These fakes are ubiquitous on ebay. Unfocused photos and low prices are one give-away. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Have these coins been ring tone tested against known genuine examples?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
695 Posts |
They are fakes. Detail is everything. If they let Edward out of the mint with unworn spaghetti ears. There would be a beheading. ars go first So I find it impossible for his moustache to be virtually no existant whilst his ear is untouched. Poor victoria looks like pregnant gargoile with desperate Dan's chin. And poor george looks like a puppet from punch and Judy. Notice all the lettering is virtually untouched and all the same height. If you look very closeyou will see that the letters mould in to the coin as if all one piece. That is because they are all casts.Prob chinese like most are.. If the dude you got them from said they were from his own collection. Either he has been duped of he is telling fibs.
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