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Moderator
 United States
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Nice addition to your collection.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice potrait, cool double strike, and a big one to boot. Nice coin JW!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Done some research. Here is a couple of examples from matching set of dies from ForgeryNetwork... Sorry.... This seems to confirm my initial thoughts. These are pressed.   Martin Edited by maridvnvm
10/30/2012 8:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Sorry, I had to take care of a family matter all evening.
I see the similarities between the coins, and I agree that this coin may have been pressed. However, in hand the fabric looks good. The image I took shows much more detail than I can see with the naked eye. The seller has a 100% money back guarantee, so now I will test his guarantee. I just received the coin yesterday after nearly a three week wait. I'll keep everyone informed. Thanks Martin for the sharp eye, but too bad about the coin. I really liked it. I guess I'll be keeping my original Herennia. BTW, how did you find the who the seller was?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts |
The flan splits on your coin look like the ones seen most commonly on pressed coins. The surfaces look like satin. The legends and devices don't show signs of striking. The double strike/press is a nice effect and one that I have seen used a few times now. I don't believe that the result matches those that we would see from a more natural double strike. Finding the seller was fairly simple. I assumed it was an ebay purchase and searched for "Etruscilla" and ticked the completed listings option. The coin then showed up in the serach allowing me to see other coins by the same seller. His TETROBOL from HISTIAIA is modern. His Severus Alexander Spes denarius is a modern cast. I was reluctant to post my initial thoughts as I had not performed any checks when posting. I fully expected a "Here he goes again..." comment. I don't want to come across as a doom monger. This is the second time I have had to inform a collector about a fake this week and it always leaves a bad taste in the mouth. The other coin was bought through a recognised dealer with a provenance dating back to the 1970s, which is unfortunately when that fake entered the market.... The collector took some persuading but the evidence in that case was damning. Regards, Martin |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Martin,
What do you think of his Trajan sestertius? I am obviously weak in spotting pressed but I believe the sestertius is a cast. When a seller comes from a country known to be hostile to collectors and has several fakes of varying versions, one has to wonder about the other coins being offered.
Has the case of the 70's fake been posted publicly? I'd be interested in seeing that one.
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Bing => "best wishes" to you and your family (health is under-rated) ... maridvnvm => please never be afraid to speak-up and point-out known, or even possible fakes ... sure, it is never a good feeling being stung while the rest of the CCF-crowd watches the thread fall apart, "but" it is far better than you not warning us to be wary and allowing us to blow all of our precious coin-cash ... => so "thank you" and thank the rest of you that chime-in whenever there seems to be a suspect coin (I/we appreciate it) |
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United States
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This is the second time I have had to inform a collector about a fake this week and it always leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Don't feel bad at all. It's a good thing that you spotted that when you did. I now have a chance to return the coin for a refund. I have already communicated with the seller who did not argue about returning the coin. His only defense was "Because on silver denarius I am not expert,now I start study on denarius". When I have time, I will post this on forum's fake reports. Do you happen to know if this seller is on the NFSL? Thanks again for spotting this and alerting me. |
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Canada
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This seller also have MANY fakes in his past sales (Lysimachos tet., Alexander III drachm, Istros, Apollonia, Carus ant., Probus ant., Claudius Drusus sest., Caracalla den.,...)  Don't think it's a legitimate mistake. |
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"Do you happen to know if this seller is on the NFSL?"
Yes, he is...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let us know when (if?) he acknowledges receiving the return and issues a refund. Then see if it gets relisted.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4253 Posts |
The seller refunded my money and and told me to keep the coin: Quote:
No problem
even is original this coin
I would let you happy with my service and communicate
Business is business always we win and lost money,this is the game is business :-)
So I am going right now to return to you
I hope that you would be happy
So we will not be seeing the coin listed again. I have the coin and the money has already been refunded on Paypal. Live and learn, right? |
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United States
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Sorry the coin turned out to be fake. Thanks to Martin's experience and good eye.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow jw, what a bummer, still nice to know you have people looking out for you.. I don't buy off ebay, I think i'll stay clear...  |
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