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Rest in Peace
United States
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Good eye. The second seller says Quote:
I do not grade coins But clearly he can un-grade them. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Good one buddy, he does "un-grade" them.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
685 Posts |
this is business, so what?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thank you for spending a bit of time teaching like this. Caveat emptor!!
Amen brother, Amen. |
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Pillar of the Community
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"this is business, so what?" It is against ebay rules not to disclose known information about a product.....in this case, coins. The buyers have to base their bidding upon pictures and the sellers description (unless the coins in an accredited TPG holder). Generally, only novices will bid on $1000+ uncertified coins and they may not learn of the serious problems with the coin until it is too late. ebay created the CCW to help stop people like this seller from perpetrating their fraud upon ebay buyers. Without watchdogs like the CCW, PNG, BBB etc, to stop these disreputable people, than ebay and its members will suffer. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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this is business, so what? Are you really serious with that comment? Has anyone contacted ebay with the findings of this seller? I think two examples from the same seller would be plenty for ebay |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote:Are you really serious with that comment? Has anyone contacted ebay with the findings of this seller? I think two examples from the same seller would be plenty for eBay I've tried this before and had a few listings removed, but only really obvious ones and they will not suspend the seller... |
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Pillar of the Community
861 Posts |
I reported these listings to Judith( ebay) and to the CCW. I found them to be quite effective in the past......refer to NARU'd seller Neyronix. All we can do is report it and see what/if something happens. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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this is business, so what?
Since when is willful FRAUD considered to be part of business  |
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Valued Member
United States
470 Posts |
I love the shocked and awed reactions to this post. The only thing wrong here is that the dealer on ebay is buying and selling with the same account. Buy with one and sell with the other and he would otherwise go undetected. Brick & Mortar dealers and show dealers have been cracking coins for years and not passing on the previous information. They just don't have the online paper trail or code of conduct that comes with ebay. |
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ya wow buyer will realize once they send off raw coin to be graded
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Brick & Mortar dealers and show dealers have been cracking coins for years and not passing on the previous information. And those dealers are just as unethical as this slimeball  Fraud is fraud, regardless of who is perpetrating it. |
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Pillar of the Community
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UPDATE: ebay has removed the 1859-s that was cracked-out |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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All we can do is report it and see what/if something happens. Exactly, we may not win the war but every battle we do win is a step in the right direction and if one gets by at least we know we tried which is allot better than doping nothing or thinking its alright to do. The ones that thinks this is just business wouldn't feel this way if they were the high bidder and then saw this evidence I am sure. I wonder if ebay tells the buyer why the listing was removed or if they just send the usual "this listing was removed" email. I really wish they would send them the reason it was removed so the buyer will know that what they received was done like this. That way they will know and may be able to send it back and receive a refund. It was allot easier for us to alert the buyers before they started blocking buyers identities. |
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Posted 11/01/2012 6:25 pm
