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 Posted 06/30/2018  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list
Got it, thanks basebal21
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 Posted 06/30/2018  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikem007 to your friends list
Always learning. I just looked up MS70. I had to google "MS70 Coin Cleaner" to find it. Seems reasonably priced at around $7 for 8oz. I've been opening Mint sets and yes, I see a lot of haze across these coins that acetone isn't taking off.

I know following directions on the bottle is just a baseline so I need to ask... how long do you leave your coins in the cleaner? How long before you through away the MS70 you've been using? I guess I need to read up on the cautions as well. For example, acetone is almost like gasoline. It will flame up fast if you have an open jar near a spark -- very dangerous stuff.
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 Posted 07/01/2018  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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. How long before you through away the MS70 you've been using? I guess I need to read up on the cautions as well. For example, acetone is almost like gasoline. It will flame up fast if you have an open jar near a spark -- very dangerous stuff.


For safety I'd keep it away from everything, ingesting it would not be good at all. Clean all the surfaces thoroughly afterwards to be safe. I don't believe it is as flammable as acetone but definitely have good ventilation.

As far as use I wouldn't ever recycle it but maybe you can I'm not sure. For haze roll a qtip soaked in it over it or something like that, I've never used it as a purely soaking method. Maybe you can I'm not sure and by no means an expert with it but I do know that done right it's perfectly acceptable and have never seen it actually destroy a coin like dip can, but you may not always like what it reveals.
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 Posted 07/03/2018  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Krazy Kermit to your friends list
Hi-Ho! Krazy Kermit here!

Personally I have heard that taking them part de-values them in the fact of the more people that do it less complete ones there are.

Rising the price in complete Mint sets and virtually decreasing the value of something you may have once had.

Now again just something I've heard not speaking from experience.
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 Posted 07/03/2018  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikem007 to your friends list
Here is a link to PCGS article on destruction of mint sets which is an interesting read. From my personal experience, 80% of what I'm finding inside these mint sets that I recently cut up are horrible and wouldn't grade much much better than MS64. I keep reminding myself that the mint bagged and shipped these coins to a location where packaging was done. Before these coins actually made it into a mint set, they had a rough life in shipping.

https://www.PCGS.com/news/Destructi...f-Mint-Sets/
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 Posted 07/03/2018  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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. Personally I have heard that taking them part de-values them in the fact of the more people that do it less complete ones there are.

Rising the price in complete Mint sets and virtually decreasing the value of something you may have once had.


With very few exceptions it's actually the opposite. Like mike posted most of the coins still in a lot of mint sets aren't that great. Leaving a very nice coin or an exceptional coin in a mint set with a bunch of subpar coins generally drags the value of the really nice coin down.
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 Posted 07/03/2018  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Krazy Kermit to your friends list
Thanks mikem007 & basebal21!

So for someone starting out like me, how would you guys recommend me buying something along the lines of a 1959 Cent. Is it better to find a shop selling it BU or find someone selling them in a cut up Mint set still?

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Any mint set pre 1965 starts to get too expensive to pluck a single 1959 cent. If you want a 1959 BU cent, have a little fun in the search and look on the Internet for "BU coin rolls" and you'll find you can purchase a 1959 BU roll for around $6. For example http://www.villagecoin.com/c/LINRLS2.html. You'll probably wind up paying a few dollars for a single 1959 cent that somebody else found so change that into something you found.

A simple google search will get you dozens of small businesses selling coin rolls. And there is a whole coin roll section on this CC website with lots of suggestions. Get yourself a nice magnifying glass and it will open up your eyes to saving only the best coins in that roll. And, nearly all of the "error" coins I found came from coin rolls so be on the lookout.
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 Posted 07/03/2018  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Krazy Kermit to your friends list
Thanks for the advice mikem007!
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 Posted 07/03/2018  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Kermit, I just recently purchased a full set of 1968-1999 Mint sets with the purpose of replacing ALL my current coins that were in various grades for MS to XF's in one mass swoop. Now All my sets from 1964-2009 have KNOWN both MS and PF coins. Yea, some are not a high grade, but they are KNOWN mint, that counts to me.

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 Posted 07/04/2018  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list

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Here is a link to PCGS article on destruction of mint sets which is an interesting read. From my personal experience, 80% of what I'm finding inside these mint sets that I recently cut up are horrible and wouldn't grade much much better than MS64. I keep reminding myself that the mint bagged and shipped these coins to a location where packaging was done. Before these coins actually made it into a mint set, they had a rough life in shipping.

https://www.PCGS.com/news/Destructi...f-Mint-Sets/


Thank you very much for the link. I try to read every article by Morgan and Walker but somehow missed this one!

Collectors just don't realize how scarce nice attractive moderns really are. They believe these mint sets will give up millions of nice collectible specimens but the reality is some dates like the 1969 are already getting scarce due to the destruction and most 1969 mint sets that survive have tarnished Philly quarters. When you add in the fact that only about 8% of mint sets had nice quarters the day they left the mint you can see these are already scarce but collectors are still sleeping.

And when I say "nice" I'm not talking about Gems here. Just attractive BU coins that look shiny and don't have a weak strike and chicken scratches. I'm talking what we used to call "BU" and is now "MS-63". Most of the rest are just ugly with bad strikes.

There were almost no rolls of these set aside! People imagine rolls and bags but I've been looking since 1972 and have never actually seen an original BU roll of 1969 clad quarters! But I know if I did see one what it would look like because I've seen lots of '69's; they would all be junk. The best '69's are the coins in mint sets.

There are other dates just as tough or tougher but people aren't collecting them so they are low priced. You can find them at all only because they aren't being collected.

It's not only quarters either. Every denomination has keys but most keys in chBU are quarters. In Gem Ikes have the most keys. In high grade Gem nickels have the most. In MS-60 quarters win again. The "easiest" set in Gem are the dimes but there are some significant keys in this set as well.
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I don't know how to reply to specific comments on here, or quote them. Somebody on here mentioned most modern sets being potentially worth more in pieces, excluding the 2008 and 2012 mint sets. Why are these sets worth more as a whole? (He asks, after already having taken apart both P and D 2008 mint sets around six months ago.)
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I don't know how to reply to specific comments on here, or quote them. Somebody on here mentioned most modern sets being potentially worth more in pieces, excluding the 2008 and 2012 mint sets. Why are these sets worth more as a whole? (He asks, after already having taken apart both P and D 2008 mint sets around six months ago.)


The wholesale price of the coins in a mint set can be far higher than the total value of a given mint set. The primary reason for this is the reluctance of many collectors to cut up sets for the coins they need. They buy individual coins rather than complete sets.

In some cases there are secondary reasons as well. Some to many coins in a specific case are not sufficient quality to sell as BU so more sets are required to build rolls. The '76 TI Ike in the '75 set is a case in point.
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