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Thoughts On This "1916" Standing Liberty Quarter On Ebay?

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 Posted 12/11/2012  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list

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I don't think anyone will be dumb enough to buy it.

Are you kidding? Have you seen what they're buying on ebay?
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 Posted 12/11/2012  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list

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Are you kidding? Have you seen what they're buying on ebay?

True.


And lets see if he relists it now.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mackwork to your friends list
No bids & bidding is over with. Nobody went for it, or they pulled it.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicscoin to your friends list
$1500 was way too much for no date 1916
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 Posted 12/11/2012  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
I dont think it was that outrageous of a price, well if it in fact was a 1916. I didn't like uhr scratches on the obverse though.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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All well. I don't think anyone will be dumb enough to buy it.

His starting price was too high, but if he were to relist it with a start of say $200 I would not at all be surprised to see it bid up and sold for over $1K. (Which is about what the real dateless ones sell for.)
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 Posted 12/11/2012  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
As the others have pointed out, the one on ebay is a dateless 1917.
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Beautiful! Is that one of the ones he got at melt value? I'm trying to follow his footsteps!


There's no doubt that Johnny "Countdown" got several nice SLQ's from dateless lots. I remember following his posts several months back. He had a gift for interpreting pics & wasn't afraid to bid way over melt to get a lot he wanted. At the time I considered following in his footsteps...until I realized I'd be competing with him. I didn't have the confidence to bid like he did.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
I'd bid like a mad man if I find one in a lot. I just haven't seen any yer. Sometimes they are in piles and you cant see them all. I see lots of type 1's in lots but so far they are all 1917. I hve wishful thinking, thinking that I will ever get one.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list
I agree the coin in this ebay listing is 100% 1917. There are actually 7 different things to look for that would indicate one or the other. Sometimes 1 fails, so there's others. The hair curl is actually my least favorite, I don't even bother with that one as there are others that are so much easier. Regardless, this coin has 1917 everything.

I also look for a dateless 1916 on ebay lots occasionally. Can't find one. I think that there are enough people these days that know how to look for them and with the coin's scarcity as it is, I doubt I'll ever see one. I know of an individual who was one of the few experts the the 70's and 80's well before the days before all relevant info was published on the internet. He would pick these out at pawn shops, coin shows, even flee markets. I think he got about 15 of them.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
The hair curl is one diagnostic that I don't usually look at. It's the hardest to tell, especially if a coin is dark or worn. Plenty of others that make it easy to distinguish.

And wow, 15 of them. That's awesome.
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 Posted 12/11/2012  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
IMO, the shield rivets are one of the big determiners when you're differentiating between a 1916 and a 1917 Standing Liberty quarter.

Even on an MS65 FH 1916 Standing Liberty quarter they DO NOT SHOW very well AT ALL!


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 Posted 12/11/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
Yeah that is the best characteristic, but if the coin is more worn and most of the rivets are gone, the deep squares crevices in the wall are a good one too. If they are visible it is a 1917.

I want a dateless 1916 and a dateless 1917 one day. I think it is fascinating to tell the dates even when they aren't visible. It would be cool to own and compare in hand.
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 Posted 12/12/2012  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Just saw this. I'm actually friends with Tom Hallenback, the only way he would have confused this with a 1917 was maybe his first year working at his dad's shop. He knows his coins now days.!
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 Posted 12/13/2012  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
Yeah even so, you can't be familiar with every coin type from all decades. People have specialties. Someone might know a whole ton about coins, but not know the defining characteristics between the 1916 and 1917 quarters.
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