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Looks ok to me, good find
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Edited by IndianGoldEagle
12/21/2012 8:13 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks counterfeit to me. I can do some checking later tonight and get back to you. This coin has some red flags. First thing that jumped out to me was the date.
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Pillar of the Community
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specific gravity test weigh the coin on a gram scale to the nearest .00
then weigh the coin suspended in distilled water and divide air wt/water wt.
....if the coin is authentic it will have the specific gravity of silver (90%)close to 10.33
(ex: 26 gr/2.74=10.22) white metal, cast iron, tin and zinc are around 7
nickel silver, copper and electra are around 8 and lead is around 11.30
weigh and measure 26.7 grams and 38 mm diameter
ping test...set coin on edge on hard surface...drop and listen for distinctive 'SILVER PING'
magnet test....70% of conterfeits are made with magnetic metals (iron ferrite base, steel, or nickel)
visually check the reeding on edge of coin for flaws...compare to authentic examples
GOOD LUCK!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Here's a side-by-side comparison of the coin versus a genuine PCGS AU55. While the OP's coin certainly could be genuine, and deserves professional authentication, the "2" & "8" in the date look odd. Also the "B" in LIBERTY is intersected by the spike somewhat differently than the genuine piece. I'll let you guys view the images and see what you think. This is a $300 coin if genuine; well worth someone making dies and striking counterfeits out of 90% silver. If it is counterfeit, it is a very good one!   |
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The bottom stroke of the "R" is missing a serif (in liberty).
Interesting thread due to the quality of the coin overall.
Edited by upstate
12/22/2012 10:19 am
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Great side by side photos for comparison BH1964! Both of the letter "S" in states look incomplete on the top serif.
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Just love the diversity of opinions, any wonder why dealers and TPGs sometimes get it wrong ( even though they are professionals, and take our money to get it right ) You should start a poll and we can revisit this thread when you get it back from the TPG. Like the 1909 s vdb found in a bag search, that was finally authenticated last week. Edited by denco7
12/22/2012 11:22 am
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Quote:Just love the diversity of opinions, any wonder why dealers and TPGs sometimes get it wrong ( even though they are professionals, and take our money to get it right ) You should start a poll and we can revisit this thread when you get it back from the TPG.  Its fascinating! The side by side photos are great and I have tried to study their details and my poll hypothesis would be it is real. Or one very impressively scary good fake (at least for the vast majority of untrained eyes). |
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I could be wrong, but it looks polished.
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I'm gonna say real but I'm also gonna subscribe to this thread to see how it turns out. I hope you send it in.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Our little friends in China continue to improve their skills. The coin in question is one of those that if it was offered to me at $50 or $100 by a dealer that I know and trust and he said it was genuine, I would still walk away and pass on a bargain. My instincts tell me the coin is wrong and I would rather miss a bargain than get stuck with a loss. Hopefully we will get to hear what NGC says on this piece.
Those that feel the coin is not genuine have pointed out areas of concern. I would like to hear from those that think the coin is genuine as to what it is that you see that convinces you the coin is good.
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If it's fake , I'm not out alot of money. Like I've said before, on all keys I will NOT offer serious money unless it's graded. I keep seller's name/address onhand and if it does grade as legit I send em a check as a bonus post-TPG. The reason I personally think it's real are : #1 - The coin looks a bit different in-hand, set next to other Peace dollars the area of note are no different than some other coin in my set that's common, and very definitely silver. #2 - The seller is a older lady that has had the coin for 10-20 years. If she's telling the truth (Which is always debatable), then I don't think that China was putting out such quality counterfeits 10-20 years ago. |
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In side by side comparison the 2 in 1928 would be my biggest question, and that could be the fact that one has luster and the other does not.
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The side by side makes me think it's real but the original pics make it look cast. I look forward to finding out what the TPG says. Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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