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Pure Nickel Toning - At Or Natural

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 Posted 12/24/2012  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list
I was with SPP when the rolls were cracked.

Nickel tones to a graysh color, not to the rainbow that some of these coins show. These colors are caused by deposit of crystals (and organic material), not by the natural reaction of Nickel to the atmosphere. In my mind, there is no difference between this toning and the ones cooked by toning experts but one: SPP did not fabricated the toning of these pieces.

Yes, I am a purist.

... and I am talking against my own interests since I had the privilege to select the nicest ones - a full 2000 set plus many 1999 and olympic.
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 Posted 12/24/2012  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCollector to your friends list
I've posted these before but being in the ground for years will also tone nickel coins. I dug this one with my metal detector this summer. Would you consider this artificial or natural? Those quarters are gorgeous by the way!

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 Posted 12/26/2012  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list
A coin is toned when it changes colour, no matter how it was done or how long it took -- buried, submerged, or stuck under a torch. I agree with DBM; artificial toning implies intent -- whether buried, submerged, or stuck under a torch. Thus I believe SPP's coins to be naturally toned, because there was no intent to alter the coins on his part. It does, however, raise a bit of a question. Down the road how is a future owner of these 25c going to know how they were toned? Is it important? Will they even care? They should, in my book.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
I had and still have some 1871-1971 BC silver Sp dollars that have toning and some with no toning, the ones that are toned have the sponge pad that come packaged in the case and the ones with no toning have no sponge pad.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list
Natural toning!

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 Posted 07/03/2013  12:44 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Of all the toned coins, only one was a real gem... a 2000 Harmony, which graded MS-65 by ICCS. Obviously, ICCS thought it was natural toning as well...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEM-TONED-C...290940849629
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 Posted 07/04/2013  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
Natural toning as well! Very pretty!
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 Posted 08/01/2014  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
You know, I am sitting here with tons of these toned coins in my basement... so I decided to grab some from the 1999 series, and figured I would offer them to anyone who digs this sort of thing...

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301265149716
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 Posted 08/01/2014  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
How many of these "sets" are you selling? Those are some pretty cool designs and tones!
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 Posted 08/01/2014  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Got a set of 12 toners?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 08/01/2014  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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Got a set of 12 toners?


Not from 1999, but I do from 2000. Fire me a message if that is something you might be interested in.

I'll see how the response is for this set, before assembling and listing others... the hardest part is trying to get decent photos of the coins.

I did get one certified ICCS MS-65: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/290940849629
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 Posted 08/02/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
Interesting topic. I showed these 73 nickel quarters in a different thread which I think NGC would tag as "environment damage". These were pulled out of a burning barn. Intent can be a broad term. So if these coins were toned by arson as opposed to an electrical short was it intentional? What if the fire was set to purposely to tone the coins? Is there a difference if one leaves a silver coin in the sun for a month vs accidentally dropping it and finding it a month later? Let's take it a step further, what if a coin is stored in a barn full of cows for 10 years vs the house next door (and no I didn't experiment with this theory, lol)? So how do we separate intent? The result in this case would have been the same. So where does "purity" end and hanky panky begin? Juts playing devils advocate here.




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 Posted 08/03/2014  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list

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like gasoline on water...

SPP, I was always looking for another term for toning, and you hit the nail right on the head with that one ..
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 Posted 11/30/2017  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Just to put closure on these same 1999 and 2000 25c coins. I put a few of the best ones aside for a few years... and just recently sold them on ebay, several to a CCF member (who loves toned coins). I also got much better at photographing toned coins. Here are some examples that sold last week. They sold within days of being listed, and if I had saved more of them, I probably would have sold them as well... (instead, the remainder went to the bank).

Harmony reverse and obverse
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Pride reverse
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October 1999 obverse
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 Posted 11/30/2017  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy888 to your friends list
wow these are great. I've never seen nickel coin do the rainbow thing. impressive.
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