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Valued Member
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@ doobyrak. I haven't seen it yet but people are reporting their holograms are "popping" off. That is definitely an adhesive issue if that's the case.
I'm in the label business and work with hundreds of different substrates and adhesives every week.
There is definitely a permanent adhesive that would have worked with this application. The challenge is finding the right hologram facestock in conjunction with the proper adhesive for the application. This can be more tricky as there is a limited market for off the shelf hologram materials with varying adhesives.
The paper in the rolls was undoubtedly printed on a flexo press with either U.V. or waterbased inks and varnish. Pretty standard for the proper permanent adhesive.
You can also add the contour of the roll to your list of issues doobyrak. For sure this needed to be an aggressive probably hot melt permanent adhesive which gives you immediate tack and no repositionability. They probably used an acrylic based adhesive that takes more time to "set up" and therefore would not adhere as well to a tight contour.
Edited by SoulBrotherNo3
02/19/2013 10:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
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 Have to agree with that also. Poor engineering either way and probably very little testing. I have seen this problem with other mint products (poor adhesive). This is what you get when you use the lowest bidder. |
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Its unsticking from both sides, it just feels loose most of the time. I have a roll that has the sticker on the seam (bad bad QA) but the other ones were not on the seams.
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Pillar of the Community
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Certainly doesn't look very professional. The sticker is covering up the leaf!
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That may be the problem also. No real process control or quality control in applying the stickers. I would hate to think they were applied by hand, but that could be the case also.
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Does the mint use a paper wrapper on any rolls other than this product or are all of their rolls shrink wrapped now?
If they don't normally place a label (sticker) on rolls, I would guess these would be hand applied as you would have to engineer your wrapping machine to have a label dispenser built in. If roll wraps are a regular product, they probably machine apply these.
If hand applied, this is tedious and probably done by temporary workers which might help explain the inconsistency.
Also could be they noticed the labels "popping" off when put over the seam and thought they could compensate for poor adhesive by just placing the sticker over an area where there's less resistance.
Either way, this is not going to be easy to fix I think.
Does anyone know what the mint is saying the delay time would be? These were supposed to start shipping a week ago.
My guess is they don't start shipping for another 2 weeks at least depending on the fix they decide to use.
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Valued Member
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Mint still uses paper rolls for their 50c. Everything else is shrink wrapped in plastic (2012 HMS Shannon etc.)
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Pillar of the Community
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I think this is the first use of a hologram sticker.
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Taro
Some rolls are still done in paper, quick example: 100 years grey cup loons some shrink wrapped but some in paper, also the 2010 poppy quarters some shrink wrapped and some in paper. Both of those the post office handed out.
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It does looks kinda nice though
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Pillar of the Community
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Very nice, that's why I'm interested in...
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I think - privately coloured.
Low mintage - its good.
But the image not clear, imo.
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10/19/2014 08:23 am
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how can it be 98% copper.?
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