Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsRoyal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Pupienus Coin

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 25 / Views: 3,392Next Topic Page 2 of 2
New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
i have read all the above opinions and will get some better photos but I will put at the top in my first post the Lanz coin on wildwinds to show that the letters are correct for this particular coin
it is almost a die match except for small details like the back chair leg which seems to be at a different angle
anymore thoughts will be gladly received thanks for looking
Pillar of the Community
United States
3229 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
Faustina, to CCF!

I am not an expert but the fist thing I did yesterday when I saw this coin was look for a fake match. IMHO I would want to see a die match to convince me of its authenticity because of is soapy appearance, the lettering just doesn't look right to me, and the wear makes it look like it was placed in tumbler.

I hope a die match is found to put doubts on this coin to rest. BTW, where did you pick this up?
Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
946 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Hello Helen (faustina),
I saw your query of this same coin on Forum and the general consensus there was it is a cast copy.
If the person sent it to you, for free, unsure of its authenticity, then it seems it is not genuine.
Anyhow, if you did not have to pay for it, it will serve as a good study piece on what a cast typically looks like.
New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
masis masis you have BLOWN my cover I am here incognito grrrrrrrrr hehehe
shhhhhhhhhhhh theres a good chap I have my invisible cloak cant believe I have been
SUSSED LOL
just trying to get some more answers and I am still looking round for any information
I can find
great site and friendly peeps I can get used to this

on a seroius note yes I was sent this coin by a forum member it was one of 140 coins purchased in a collection which was bought from tennants auctioneers yorkshire and seems to have several different opinions
I saw yesterday that copper asses were actually cast at some times in the roman times and this is something I would like to follow up
I understand what you mean by the soapy look but I do hope to get some better photos as it does look sharper in reality hope that helps any comments especially any knowledge in asses being cast I will be most interested thankyou forum members for your time

TJ have you looked how close a match it is to the LANZ coin which is printed beneath my coin the writing looks spot on to me and it looks the correct style thanks for your comments much appreciated

Edited by faustina
02/07/2013 1:44 pm
Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

Quote:
TJ have you looked how close a match it is to the LANZ coin which is printed beneath my coin the writing looks spot on to me and it looks the correct style thanks for your comments much appreciated


These similarities struck me too - been a bit busy lately so not had a chance to give this much thought, I'm still in the head scratching camp atm

New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
scratch away bobbyhelmet as long as you come up with the right answer in the end
I have never had in hand to my knowledge a fake coin and this is just not what I would expect at all there are no noticeable seams
must get myself organised tomorrow and get new photos as I have said the obverse does have better detail than the photo shows grrrrr I really am appreciating all your super comments negative or positive it all helps to answer some questions THANKS GUYS
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I have to disagree with what the more experienced collectors have said and say I see nothing that would indicate to me that this coin is fake. It's aways difficult to say with just a picture to go by and the soapy appearance can just be caused by the light where the picture was taken. The overall appearance of the coin looks correct and it does not appear to be cast IMO.
Edited by echizento
02/07/2013 2:21 pm
New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
i have been collecting for six months and work to a strict budget if this by a miracle proves to be authentic it will be a jewel and cherished very very much
I am doing lots of research and learning as I go fingers crossed that it turns out good
something that helps is that although I have no experience with fakes the collection it came from of 140 coins I expect that the collector must have had more experience than myself and therefore I do hope it would have been sussed by this person thankyou all for your great help in this very difficult assessment
New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/07/2013  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
I have managed to find one more coin that has the chair leg like my coin
Pupienus-Coin

Pupienus-Coin

Pupienus-Coin

Pupienus-Coin

Pupienus-Coin
Edited by faustina
02/08/2013 05:28 am
Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2013  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
I have made a point of learning as much as I can about fakes and their manufacture and how to spot them over the years. I am one of the admins on the Fake reports over at Forum and have personally added over 2,000 of the fake reports there. I only mention this to put my comments into some context. I am not someone who calls a coin a fake lightly.

Based on the images alone I would not touch this coin. It shows all the signs of being a modern sand cast. None of the details are sharp. Everything is too soft. This is not down to lighting. It could be down to other factors but I do not believe this to be the case and as such would not take the chance on this one and would wait for another cion on another day.

Regards,
Martin
New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2013  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
thankyou for everyones valued opinion the saddest thing for me is that having got it in hand I cant tell and that is very worrying
martin could I e mail you please as I dont seem to have the facility to pm you yet
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2013  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
The last two images are the best. Based on these more natural looking pictures I have to reverse my first impression and agree with the others.
New Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2013  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add faustina to your friends list
thankyou at least everyone is on the same page so the photos have helped to do that
I just have so much to learn and will examine this coin some more and try and learn
from it
do you think I should scrape the edge to see what it is made of
what metal in your opinion do you suspect it will be made of please
has anyone any idea why no more of these fakes can be found on the net I have searched
and searched
when someone says there is a die match for the coin is that a good or bad thing please I am really in the dark about this DARK SIDE of coin collecting and could do with any information that you could pass on
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2013  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
It's up to you, but if it were mine I'd leave it alone. Whatever metal it is it has no real value as a fake coin.
Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts
 Posted 02/08/2013  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
You should be able to I'm me through Forum. I cannot I'm you here and am not willing to publicise my email address directly. If you have a problem on Forum then please let me know and I will send you my email address through Forum.
Regards,
Martin
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 25 / Views: 3,392Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to rattle this change. Forums