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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it is authentic (I am not the right person to make that determination), the O DOL. on the reverse is fascinating! Hopefully they can also make a determination on Grease Filled Die or something else. Thanks for posting and  to CCF!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's going to be tricky to authenticate with photos alone as the weight in this case is *really* key.
The denticles are nice and strong, the date looks good. Overall, I'm not seeing anything *obvious* right off the bat that's screaming "counterfeit" at me directly.
The grease-filled letters and star (which is of course, unusual but not unheard of) and the drapery around Liberty's left arm I'd need to see closer pictures of as the latter is a bit washed out and "puffy" (which could indicate a transfer die). However, this could simply be due to it being cleaned harshly at one point in its life, or the light and resolution these pictures were taken in.
If this is real, you're looking at something worth ~$300+, which is why it will be well-worth taking the time and effort to get it properly authenticated.
So the next step from here is: Higher resolution pictures in very good light. :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
Whats going on with the beak of the eagle on the reverse?
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New Member
 United States
7 Posts |
Well thanks for all the help but I got some bad news , not unexpected but bad. I found a scale and it weights 22g.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Interesting! the beak looks squared off. Would it be possible to post pictures of the edge milling?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2480 Posts |
Among other things, the drapery under the left elbow is folded differently than the known real coin.
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New Member
 United States
7 Posts |
I took a big risk and scratched it and...... BRASS!!!! Yeah!! I guess it costs to learn. I really apreciate all the comments. Repost the fake picks anytime you can so other buyers can see how good the fakes are.
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New Member
 United States
7 Posts |
Is there any type of value in the counterfeits ?
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Valued Member
United States
258 Posts |
sc2.Yes if they were counterfeited in the 1800s.
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Valued Member
United States
258 Posts |
Realize this is a coin forum.This is counterfeit.From the 1800s 
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New Member
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1388 Posts |
 I don't see any reason why you can't own it, as it was not taken from the Mint illegally. As long as you don't try to pass it off as real, you should be good. I think. Wait until someone with more knowledge than I comments before doing anything.
Edited by The Silver Searcher 02/21/2013 8:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1796 Posts |
@SC2HOTS - 22 grams and brass kinda seal the deal. Fakety, fake-fake. :-) For questions about the legality of counterfeits, I recommend the FAQ over at The Black Cabinet here: http://fakes.numismetrica.com/faq/I would also recommend submitting it for inclusion in The Black Cabinet if you'd like. *As* a counterfeit, if sold to a counterfeit collector, that might fetch anywhere from $5-$15 depending on a number of factors. Sadly, not anywhere near what you paid for it. :-(
Edited by SteveCaruso 02/21/2013 8:30 pm
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New Member
 United States
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My buddy refunded me HaHa! Thanks again this site is great! He found it, so no real loss anywhere.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2311 Posts |
That's good he refunded you. Sadly the coin was fake :(
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