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1842 Dollar Fake?

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 Posted 02/21/2013  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
If it is authentic (I am not the right person to make that determination), the O DOL. on the reverse is fascinating! Hopefully they can also make a determination on Grease Filled Die or something else.

Thanks for posting and to CCF!
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 Posted 02/21/2013  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
That's going to be tricky to authenticate with photos alone as the weight in this case is *really* key.

The denticles are nice and strong, the date looks good. Overall, I'm not seeing anything *obvious* right off the bat that's screaming "counterfeit" at me directly.

The grease-filled letters and star (which is of course, unusual but not unheard of) and the drapery around Liberty's left arm I'd need to see closer pictures of as the latter is a bit washed out and "puffy" (which could indicate a transfer die). However, this could simply be due to it being cleaned harshly at one point in its life, or the light and resolution these pictures were taken in.

If this is real, you're looking at something worth ~$300+, which is why it will be well-worth taking the time and effort to get it properly authenticated.

So the next step from here is: Higher resolution pictures in very good light. :-)
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 Posted 02/21/2013  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
Whats going on with the beak of the eagle on the reverse?
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 Posted 02/21/2013  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SC2HOTS to your friends list
Well thanks for all the help but I got some bad news , not unexpected but bad. I found a scale and it weights 22g.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Interesting! the beak looks squared off.
Would it be possible to post pictures of the edge milling?
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 Posted 02/21/2013  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
Among other things, the drapery under the left elbow is folded differently than the known real coin.


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 Posted 02/21/2013  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SC2HOTS to your friends list
I took a big risk and scratched it and...... BRASS!!!! Yeah!! I guess it costs to learn. I really apreciate all the comments. Repost the fake picks anytime you can so other buyers can see how good the fakes are.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SC2HOTS to your friends list
Is there any type of value in the counterfeits ?
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 Posted 02/21/2013  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miket to your friends list
sc2.Yes if they were counterfeited in the 1800s.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miket to your friends list
Realize this is a coin forum.This is counterfeit.From the 1800s
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 Posted 02/21/2013  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SC2HOTS to your friends list
Is it even legal to own
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 Posted 02/21/2013  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list


I don't see any reason why you can't own it, as it was not taken from the Mint illegally. As long as you don't try to pass it off as real, you should be good.

I think. Wait until someone with more knowledge than I comments before doing anything.
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02/21/2013 8:17 pm
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 Posted 02/21/2013  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
@SC2HOTS - 22 grams and brass kinda seal the deal. Fakety, fake-fake. :-)

For questions about the legality of counterfeits, I recommend the FAQ over at The Black Cabinet here:

http://fakes.numismetrica.com/faq/

I would also recommend submitting it for inclusion in The Black Cabinet if you'd like.

*As* a counterfeit, if sold to a counterfeit collector, that might fetch anywhere from $5-$15 depending on a number of factors. Sadly, not anywhere near what you paid for it. :-(
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02/21/2013 8:30 pm
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 Posted 02/22/2013  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SC2HOTS to your friends list
My buddy refunded me HaHa! Thanks again this site is great! He found it, so no real loss anywhere.
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 Posted 02/22/2013  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
That's good he refunded you. Sadly the coin was fake :(
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