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Australian Grading Pictorial Chart

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 Posted 02/24/2013  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list
I agree that we need to know what grading is all about. It is very important for the collector, so as to buy the coin in the right price range for its grading.

But for the online seller very good images of the coin is all important and not the seller's grading, as the buyer will grade and put their own price on the coin that is for sale.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Squire Wilson to your friends list
Hi Tim.

I have found your high quality images of King George V Australian pennies and your detailed description of the various conditions of these coins very useful

A worthy project

Squire
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 Posted 02/24/2013  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
This photo scale was published several tears ago, and is still the best for Australian coins.
I use this to grade my MY OWN coins and not use a TPG. In fact, I use it to grade all of my World coins as well.
Would much prefer to rely on this than the Sheldon scale, which is not much used in Australia anyway.

The grading of ancient coins places a lot more emphasis on other factors, rather than just wear.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list
Thank you all for your comments and support.

I have just uploaded the new landing page, which is an index page comparing the grades side-by-side, and clearer links qualifying my assessments.


new link follows:

Australian PD Coin Grading Guides


It occurs to me that I should now be looking for coins in each grade of the same date (not as easy as it sounds when trying to demonstrate a specific grade, such as VG and EF, rather than sub-grades, such as gVG or aEF, AND trying to avoid coins with detractors).

Over time, as images come naturally, I'll go back and take care of this.

PS - I agree, grading is important, but it's not someone else's opionion that is significant - It is your own.

When I'm buying, I almost entirely make my assessment based on images, rather than a seller's description.

That way I have no-one to blame but myself if the coin is not up to my expectations, (given that the coin imaged is the coin supplied ...... don't ya hate substitution .....).

OK - enough of coins for today - time to take the wife out for coffee, before she starts to feel neglected.


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 Posted 02/24/2013  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ECS to your friends list
hi Tim, Just had a look and it is great what you have done.

whats the chances of having a self grading page where you can select different items specific to your coin eg. number of pearls, mint luster etc in say a bullet button and it then spits out an approximate grading. I can possibly write a VB script to do this but I would not know how to integrate it into a website. may be a waste of time but food for thought.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list

Quote:
self grading page where you can select different items specific to your coin eg. number of pearls, mint luster etc in say a bullet button and it then spits out an approximate grading
Sound interesting.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list
Hi ECS,

Your idea is interesting, although I'd imagine possibly a little self-defeating?

My thoughts are that by the time someone has taken the time to identify specific features (or lack thereof), they are probably fairly close to determining their own rough position on grade.

The mind is a magnificent super-computer, and a lot of the distinctions and specifics are subconsciously considered.

Don't let me discourage you though, if you are thinking of doing something. It is a very interesting idea, but sounds complicated.

My thoughts are that your would probably need to identify 8 - 10 features or charateristics, possibly 5 from each side, and assign a point value to each characteristic.

Starting to sound a bit like the Sheldon system?

Now, if you could scan an image, and send it through to a program to assess your coin, that would be something!

Would not require any prior knowledge or learning (other than the obvious computer glitches and technical know-how associated with those).

Probably something that will happen in the future - for now we do that with our own 'super-computers', or with our friends on forums.

More likely the future holds a 'paid-for' online assessment by an individual / company.


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02/25/2013 03:57 am
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 Posted 02/25/2013  06:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list

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Now, if you could scan an image, and send it through to a program to assess your coin, that would be something!

Would not require any prior knowledge or learning (other than the obvious computer glitches and technical know-how associated with those).

Probably something that will happen in the future - for now we do that with our own 'super-computers', or with our friends on forums.

More likely the future holds a 'paid-for' online assessment by an individual / company.


Someone here (dibby33 I think) wanted to do something like that. Not sure what they've done though as I haven't seen them post in a while.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list
An afterthought .....

The technology must exist, given 'facial recognition' programs, etc.

There is probably already software written that could be adapted to suit coin verification / evaluation.

That would solve a large part of the challenge.

Would probably cost a bucket-load though .....
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 Posted 02/28/2013  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list
My personal version of the "Sheldon System"
Penny Penny Penny .
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 Posted 02/28/2013  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list
Formerly nancyc
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 Posted 03/01/2013  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list

Quote:
My personal version of the "Sheldon System"

Shouldn't that be :

Penny Penny Penny
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 Posted 03/01/2013  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list
"Housemate Agreement" Item 212 Subsection 4 paragraph 3.b- All corrections will be humbly noted and accepted.!
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 Posted 03/02/2013  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list
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